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General Info + Info re Next Meeting - WEDNESday, July 8th
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Our next meeting will be WEDNESday, July 8th, 7:00 pm > 8:45 pm - Salt Lake Public Library - 210 East 400 South - Conference Room C (special elevator just inside east entrance). Please skip to the second section below for information about the topic for July 8th -- and following sections for reference materials and participant comments.

PLEASE CLICK ON “VIEW THE HOMEPAGE” ON THE SECOND LINE AT THE TOP OF THIS BULLETIN BOARD TO FIND OUT –
(1) WHAT WE ARE,
(2) HOW TO SIGN UP FOR OUR WEEKLY E-MAIL,
(3) HOW TO POST/REPLY/EDIT/DELETE YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS BULLETIN BOARD, AND
(4) A LIST OF MONTHLY TOPICS WHICH WERE ADDRESSED SINCE THIS BULLETIN BOARD WAS INAUGURATED AUGUST 2007 AND FOR WHICH MATERIALS APPEAR BELOW IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER.

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Last post by jimandellen
Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:40 am
Possible Topics – August 12th Meeting
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Click here to view possible topics for the August 12th meeting (participants at the July 8th meeting will vote on the topic for August 12th). If you would like to suggest a topic, it is requested as a courtesy that your suggestion be posted here beforehand so that others will have time to give it proper consideration.

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It should be noted that there was considerable sentiment at our June 10th meeting that we follow Bill Lee's suggestion of adopting as our topic for August 12th re-considering all aspects of health-care reform as Congress is poised for final passage of a bill this fall. Among other things, we would review all of the reference materials posted on this bulletin board for the last two times we considered this subject = 4 months ago on 11 March 2009 and 23 months ago on 2 August 2007.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE TWO NEW OP-ED ARTICLES POSTED BY "SOLUTIONS" FOLLOWING BILL'S RECOMMENDATION, REGARDING THE "BLIND EYE" CONGRESS IS GIVING COST CONTROL (TO WHICH PRESIDENT OBAMA PAYS ONLY "LIP SERVICE") -- THE FIRST OF WHICH WAS WRITTEN BY THE CEO OF SAFEWAY INC. ABOUT THEIR SUCCESS IN REDUCING COSTS BY 40% BY CHARGING EMPLOYEES 100% OF THE EXTRA ACTUARIAL COST FOR TOBACCO USAGE, BEING OVERWEIGHT, ETC. (This, incidentally, is reminiscent of the "Fat Tax" proposed in the UK House of Commons at the behest of Oxford University, but not enacted -- a news report on the UK "fat tax" is posted on this bulletin board as one of the reference materials for 23 months ago on 2 August 2007).
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Last post by solutions
Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:31 pm
Original Proposal - How To Change The World - July 8th
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Our focus will be “How To Change The World: Social Entrepreneurs and the Power of New Ideas” By David Bornstein (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $10.85 + shipping).

Nelson Mandela –
“Wonderfully hopeful and enlightening…The stories of these social entrepreneurs will inspire and encourage many people who seek to build a better world.”

NY Times –
“The book is must reading for anyone who cares about building a more equitable, and therefore more stable, world.”

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Last post by Pat
Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:57 am
Participant Comments - How To Change The World - July 8th

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:15 pm
Reference Materials - How To Change The World - July 8th
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Although the NY Times has never published formal book reviews of either of David Bornstein’s two most famous books (“The Price of a Dream: The Story of the Grameen Bank” which probably provided the publicity that garnered the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize for the Grameen Bank and its founder, Muhammad Yunus, and our current focus “How To Change The World: Social Entrepreneurs and the Power of New Ideas” which was a NY Times Hardcover Bestseller), this section contains –

Two articles that focus primarily on Bornstein and “How to Change the World” –

(1) A Social Solution, Without Going the Nonprofit Route – 3/4/2009
(2) Of Globalization and the Greater Good – 2/22/2004

and two Letters to the Editor of the NY Times by David Bornstein and the articles that provoked him –

(1) A Nobel Prize for Wal-Mart? – 10/20/2006
(2) Inch By Inch, A Lifeline For The Poor – 5/2/2004
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Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:38 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Come Home America - June 10

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:49 am
Original Proposal - Come Home America - June 10
We will focus on Utah Owl’s recommendation of William Greider's new book, “Come Home, America: The Rise and Fall (and Redeeming Promise) of Our Country” on his ideas about why America is losing its global leadership position and how ordinary people can use profound global changes at hand to build a more equitable society. You can download audio of Diane Rehm's interview with Greider at http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/04/08.php#25615 - second segment of this show. The book is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $16.52 new & $14.17 used + shipping.

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Last post by UtahOwl
Sat May 16, 2009 11:25 am
The Banking Imbroglio - Come Home America - June 10
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Considerable e-mail correspondence has been received from our members on the subjects of “toxic assets,” the “mark-to-market” rules, the bank “stress tests” and now this week’s announcement that virtually all of the large banks (except Citibank, Wells Fargo and Bank of America) will be permitted to repay the U.S. government for loans made to them under TARP.

These materials have been posted for everyone to read because “Come Home America” (as well as William Greider’s previous best-selling books) have focused to a considerable extent on economic problems. And because posting them for everyone to see should facilitate our discussion this evening.

Apparently, the reason why so much e-mail has been directed toward me is that I majored in economics in college before attending Harvard Law School and, I am guessing, the authors of the e-mails thought I had sounded knowledgeable in past postings on our bulletin board when we had discussed economic issues. In addition, much of this issue deals with the “mark-to-market” accounting rule and I did receive the Sells Silver Medal for ranking 2d out of 28,788 candidates nationally on the Fall 1971 Uniform CPA Exam.

(I hope readers will NOT assume that this is an attempt to brag, but merely an attempt to re-assure them that my comments can be accepted with some degree of accuracy.)

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Last post by johnkarls
Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:37 am
Participant Comments - Come Home America - June 10
THIS SECTION CONTAINS A TRANSCRIPT OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S JUNE 4 CAIRO SPEECH FOLLOWING THE SUGGESTED ANSWERS TO THE SHORT QUIZ (since it relates to Q&A 12).

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Last post by Pat
Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:44 pm
Reference Materials - Come Home America - June 10
We will focus on Utah Owl's recommendation of William Greider's new book, "Come Home, America: The Rise and Fall (and Redeeming Promise) of Our Country" (published by Rodale 3/17/2009) - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.13 new or $15.00 used + shipping.

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Last post by johnkarls
Sun May 31, 2009 2:41 am
CALL TO ACTION - The ONLY Way To Transform SINGLE-DIGIT Inner-City High School Graduation Rates to 65%-70% - Only 5 Minutes Needed to Answer the Call to Action

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat May 16, 2009 12:04 pm
Suggested Discussion Outline - A Report Card for U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat May 09, 2009 9:28 am
Original Proposal - A Report Card for US Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13
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Focusing on whether to re-direct our January 14th six-degrees-of-separation e-mail campaign on "Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools" toward Secretary Duncan (please see this bulletin board below re Jan 14th for details).

Suggested reading = “The Obama Education Plan: An Education Week Guide” (available from your local library or from Amazon.com from $7.83 + shipping).

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Last post by johnkarls
Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:33 am
Participant Comments - A Report Card for US Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13
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Our focus is Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools and "The Obama Education Plan: An Education Week Guide by Education Week" (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $14.95 (used $7.83) + shipping) and actions/decisions being taken by Education Secretary Arne Duncan.

We anticipate re-directing our six-degrees-of-separation e-mail campaign of last January from President Obama to Secretary Duncan who has an unheard-of $5 billion in the proposed budget over which he has 100% discretion and so far the Administration has been ignoring the only factor that can transform single-digit inner-city high-school graduation rates to 65%-70%!!! The budget will be approved in the next few weeks and a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to do something significant vis-à-vis educating inner-city kids effectively will be lost!!!

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Last post by johnkarls
Tue May 05, 2009 11:38 am
Reference Materials - A Report Card for US Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13
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Our focus is Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools and "The Obama Education Plan: An Education Week Guide by Education Week" (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $14.95 (used $7.83) + shipping) and actions/decisions being taken by Education Secretary Arne Duncan.

We anticipate re-directing our six-degrees-of-separation e-mail campaign of last January from President Obama to Secretary Duncan who has an unheard-of $5 billion in the proposed budget over which he has 100% discretion and so far the Administration has been ignoring the only factor that can transform single-digit inner-city high-school graduation rates to 65%-70%!!! The budget will be approved in the next few weeks and a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to do something significant vis-à-vis educating inner-city kids effectively will be lost!!!

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Last post by Site Administrator
Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:15 am
CALL TO ACTION – Human Intelligence vs. Surging in Afghanistan From 17,000 U.S. Troops to 70,000 and Beyond
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Click here for how to participate in our six-degrees-of-separation "Call to Action" to send (and have all of our friends and acquaintances send in an unending chain) an e-mail to President Obama respectfully requesting an explanation of why human intelligence capabilities, together with other programs that have been put in place since 9-11-2001, are not sufficient to protect America and its allies from potential attacks from terrorist organizations based in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And whether fighting an air war against the areas of Pakistan that are not controlled by its central government (thereby risking the extension of Fundamentalist-Islamic rule installed earlier this year in the Swat Valley to all of Pakistan) and trying to subjugate Afghanistan as a base to fight that air war when Afghanistan has never been conquered successfully for any length of time throughout recorded history, adds or detracts from our overall intelligence capabilities to detect and prevent terrorist attacks on America and its allies.

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:18 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Afghanistan, President Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8

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Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:44 pm
Original Proposal - Afghanistan, Pres. Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8
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Focusing on --

(1) Newsweek's Cover Story for 2/9/2009 entiled "Obama's Vietnam" (posted here and under "Reference Materials" two sections below).

(2) "Counterinsurgency: Theory and Practice" by David Galula - considered "The Bible" by US General David Patraeus and required reading at the US Army's Command and General Staff School - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $26.95 + shipping (unfortunately, the price is currently quite high due to extraordinary current demand from the U.S. media).

(3) The movie "Charlie Wilson's War" (2007) starring Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Philip Seymour-Hoffman and Amy Adams about one US Congressperson's covert expulsion of the Russians from Afghanistan in the 1980's - which raises the obvious question of why we think we can be more successful than the Russians in subjugating Afghanistan.

(*) For extra credit, read "The US Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual" (2007) by David Patraeus which is surprisingly readable - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $10.20 (new) or $8.50 (used) + shipping.

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Last post by johnkarls
Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:40 am
Participant Comments - Afghanistan, Pres. Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8

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Last post by johnkarls
Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:00 pm
Reference Materials - Afghanistan, Pres. Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8
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Press here to view, among other things --

(1) The text of the Newsweek cover story for February 9, 2009 entitled "Obama's Vietnam"

(2) The NY Times 2/16/2009 story = "Pakistan Grants Autonomy to Swat Valley"

(3) Defense Secretary Gates on Pakistan "Safe Havens" for The Taliban and Al Qaeda Pivotal in Afgahnistan War

(4) President Obama's Official New Policy Announced March 27th per WhiteHouse.com

(5) "The Real Afghan Issue Is Pakistan – The President Has His Priorities Reversed" By Graham Allison and John Deutsch -- Graham Allison is the Founding Dean of Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government and the author of a book ("Nuclear Terrorism") on Osama bin Laden's fatwa to nuke 10 million Americans; he also served as Assistant Defense Secretary for Policy and Plans under President Clinton and was the "moving force" on the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on Preventing WMD Proliferation and Terrorism -- John Deutsch is a Professor at MIT and served as CIA Director in President Clinton's second term.

(6) News report that President Obama is mulling increasing his already-announced "surge" of 21,000 additional U.S. troops in Afghanistan by another 10,000 U.S. troops, for a total of 70,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
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Last post by johnkarls
Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:42 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - How Should Pres. Obama Reform Health Care - March 11

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Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:38 pm
Original Proposal - How Should Pres. Obama Reform Health Care - March 11
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Click here to also view the article of the same title in The New Yorker of January 26th.

In addition, please read "Sick - The Untold Story of America's Health Care and the People Who Pay the Price" (Harper Collins 2007) by Jonathan Cohn, a Senior Editor at The New Republic (available from your local library or Amazon.com for $7.99 + shipping).

Please also see the voluminous material posted on this bulletin board for our August 2007 meeting 18 months ago.

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Last post by UtahOwl
Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:40 pm
Participant Comments - How Should Pres. Obama Reform Health Care - March 11

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Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:50 pm
Suggested Discussion Outline - Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction: Foreign Policy - Feb. 11

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Last post by johnkarls
Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:47 am
Feb. 11 Topic = Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction - Foreign Policy
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The topic is "Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction - Foreign Policy" focusing on (1) last month's Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism (Chaired by Bob Graham, 18-year Democratic US Senator from Florida who resigned to run for President in 2004), and (2) "America and the World: Conversations on the Future of American Foreign Policy" between Zbigniew Brzezinski (National Security Adviser to President Jimmy Carter and Democratic Party foreign-policy spokesperson on all the "talking head" shows during the recent 2-year Presidential campaign) and Brent Scowcroft (National Security Adviser to President Ford and the first President Bush) - moderated by David Ignatius of the Washington Post.

BOTH BRZEZINSKI AND SCOWCROFT WROTE OP ED ARTICLES OPPOSING AN INVASION OF IRAQ 7 MONTHS BEFORE IT TOOK PLACE – SCOWCROFT IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL OF 8/15/2002 AND BRZEZINSKI IN AN UNSPECIFIED (BY IGNATIUS) AUGUST 2002 ISSUE OF THE WASHINGTON POST.

Last month's Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission received wide publicity for one of its conclusions - that the U.S. will likely face a terrorist attack using nuclear or biological weapons by 2013. It would be a shame for the Democratic Party to become extinct if such an event were to occur.

Last month's Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission is posted on our bulletin board = http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org. Last fall's book of conversations of David Ignatius with Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft is available from your local library,or from Amazon.com for $18.15 new ($15.50 used) plus shipping.

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Last post by Pat
Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:38 pm
Participant Comments - Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction/Foreign Policy - Feb. 11

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Last post by AaronStander
Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:34 am
Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on the Prevention of WMD Proliferation and Terrorism - Feb. 11
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Click here to view the Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism.

It is also available in PDF (Adobe) format at http://www.preventwmd.gov/report/.

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:39 am
Other Background Mats - Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction/Foreign Policy - Feb. 11

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Last post by Pat
Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:18 am
CALL TO ACTION - Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools
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Please click here to see how you can participate in solving the problem of the permanent American under-class created and perpetuated by separate BUT UNEQUAL inner-city public schools.

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As of January 21, it may no longer be possible to send the original e-mail contained in this section to President Obama. He has transformed http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact into a single window announcing that the transition is over and providing a button for the user to transfer to http://www.whitehouse.gov, which has been transformed with the departure of former President Bush.

Although the transformed http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ provides a new suggestion box, IT NOW CONTAINS A LIMITATION OF 500 CHARACTERS (INCLUDING SPACES!!!)!!! Neither his old Senatorial suggestion box nor his President-Elect transition suggestion box had contained any limitation.

The message in our e-mail of last Saturday for sending to President Obama with respect to Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools is 1,633 characters (including spaces), and our e-mail following our November meeting for sending to President Obama to encourage him to embrace Al Gore's Challenge to America to re-power our electrical grid to be based solely on solar and wind was 1,251 characters (including spaces).

The following protest (containing 489 characters including spaces) was filed on President Obama's new web site at 11:05 pm MST on January 21:

Dear Mr. President:

Our Reading Liberally/Salt Lake organization would like TO PROTEST your new limitation of 500 characters for messages to you!

We frequently encourage all of our members to contact you (and to contact all of their friends in an unending chain to contact you) with regard to issues we are studying (please see http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org for further info).

We suggest a limit of 500 WORDS would be more reasonable.

Thank you.

Sincerely yours,

John K.

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No auto-reply e-mail receipt (similar to the auto-reply e-mail receipts for the http://www.change.gov, an example of which is contained in the first item in this section of the bulletin board) has been received for the protest message even though it is only 489 characters long including spaces.

So we ran two tests.

(1) The original 1,561-character message was sent on January 22nd to http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ by “cutting and pasting” the message into the “suggestion box” – it took all 1,561 characters but with no e-mail receipt, it is not certain the entire message (or indeed any part of it) went through.

(2) The original 1,561-character message was typed de novo (vs. “cutting and pasting”) into the http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ “suggestion box” – which kept a “running count” of the characters (including spaces) AND DISABLED THE KEYBOARD AFTER 500 CHARACTERS!!!

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It is presumed that as soon as the White House staff discovers that “cutting and pasting” finesses their 500-character limitation (assuming the “cut and paste” test even went through on Jan 22nd), they will change their computer program to reject “cut and paste” messages exceeding the limit.

Accordingly, “solutions” has watered down our original e-mail message to President Obama (it is contained in the second item, time-wise, in this section) to comply with the 500 character limitation.

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Last post by solutions
Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:40 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Leaving Children Behind - Jan. 14

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Last post by johnkarls
Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:51 am
January 14th Topic = Leaving Children Behind
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Examining the position of the National Educational Association (the largest union of American K-12 teachers) on "No Child Left Behind" and the 2007 decision of the U.S. Supreme Court that race could NOT be considered by the school boards of Seattle WA and Louisville KY in order to achieve diversity -- in determining whether to initiate a "Six Degrees of Separation" campaign to submit to the on-line suggestion box of our President Elect the suggestion of John Karls from November 2007 that regional (multi-district) magnet schools be employed to avoid leaving children behind while still complying with the new Supreme Court restriction (please see the November 2007 materials on "The Jena Six and the Supreme Court's Reversal of School Integration" on this bulletin board).

Suggested reading =
(1) the NEA position per its web site vis-a-vis No Child Left Behind, AND
(2) Jonothan Kozol, The Shame of the Nation: The Restoration of Apartheid Schooling in America (2005), PLUS
(3) for extra credit, Jonothan Kozol’s other books on inner-city education =
Death at an Early Age (1967)
The Night Is Dark and I Am Far From Home: Political Indictment of US Public Schools (1975)
Illiterate America (1985)
Rachel and Her Children (1988)
Savage Inequalities: Children in America’s Schools (1991)
On Being a Teacher (1994)
Amazing Grace: The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation (1995)
Ordinary Resurrections: Children in the Years of Hope (2001)

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Last post by solutions
Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:55 pm
Background Mats + Participant Comments - Leaving Children Behind - Jan. 14
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Please also read the following essays that were prepared 14 months ago when our topic was "School Desegregation and The Jena Six" -- the following essays are contained in the 8 November 2007 section below entitled "The Controversy That Is Bill Cosby" --

Inner-City Kids and Public Education
Inner-City Measured IQ’s
Pushers Recruiting Third Graders as Runners
Perceptions of Inner-City 5-Year Olds!!!
Typical Inner-City Conditions and IHAD Results

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Last post by solutions
Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:48 am
Text - 2007 Supreme Court Reversal of School Integration - Leaving Children Behind - Jan. 14
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In 1896, the Supreme Court held in "Plessy v. Ferguson" that racial segregation in public elementary and secondary schools was constitutional provided that the minority schools were "separate but equal."

In 1954, the Supreme Court held in "Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka" that racial segregation in public schools is inherently unequal and therefore unconstitutional.

In 2007, the Supreme Court held in "Parents v. Seattle School District No. 1" that (quoting from the Court's own summary of its opinion (the summary appears in page 1 of the 8 pages of text posted in this section of the bulletin board)) -- "Further, the Court held that the districts, which did not operate legally segregated schools, denied students equal protection by classifying students by race and relying upon the classification in school assignments."

In other words, the Supreme Court approved a "Look Ma, no hands!!!" approach to segregated schools, where the "apartheid" school segregation as Jonathan Kozol terms it, is achieved by segregated housing!!!

In doing so, the Supreme Court didn't even have the grace to say that the schools for the segregated neighborhoods SHOULD BE EQUAL -- taking us back to the Dark Ages before Plessy v. Ferguson!!!

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Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:33 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - "It's The Economy, Stupid" - Dec. 10th

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Last post by johnkarls
Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:42 am
December 10th Meeting = "It's The Economy, Stupid"
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For those who may not remember, "It's The Economy, Stupid" was a constant reminder pasted by Bill Clinton to his shaving mirror for his entire 8 years in office.

Suggested reading = “Bad Money: Reckless Finance, Failed Politics, and the Global Crisis of American Capitalism” by Kevin Phillips, author of 12 best-selling books on American politics, a regular contributor to the Los Angeles Times and National Public Radio, and a political analyst for PBS’ NOW with Bill Moyers.

Published 4/15/2008 and available from your local library or Amazon.com for $17.13 new ($11.50 used) + shipping.

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Last post by UtahOwl
Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:19 pm
Participant Comments - "It's The Economy, Stupid" - Dec. 10th

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Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:25 am
Reference Materials - "It's The Economy, Stupid" - Dec. 10th

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Last post by johnkarls
Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:35 am
CALL TO ACTION - Al Gore's 10-Year Challenge to America
Our call to action asks all Americans to contact President-Elect Barack Obama to request him to champion Al Gore's Challenge to America to re-power America’s electrical grid so that within 10 years the grid is carbon free in order to (1) bring our economy back to life by creating American jobs, (2) achieve energy independence for our foreign policy, (3) eliminate our balance of payments deficit (borrowing $700 billion/year from the Chinese to buy oil from other foreign countries, many of whom hate us), and (4) constitute a major step in halting global warming.

Please see the details in this section regarding how you can participate!!!

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:18 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Al Gore's Challenge to America - Nov. 12

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Last post by johnkarls
Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:30 am
Text of Al Gore's July 17th Challenge To Re-Power America's Electricity Grid Within 10 Years - For Nov. 12
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Our focus for WEDNESday November 12th is Al Gore's 17 July 2008 "Generational Challenge" to America to Re-Power Its Electrical Grid To Rely 100% (except for hydro which would remain in place) on Wind and Solar WITHIN 10 YEARS!!!

In order to (1) comply with Kyoto with 100%-clean electricity, (2) achieve energy independence for our foreign policy, (3) eliminate our balance of payments deficit (borrowing $700 billion/year from China to buy oil from other foreign countries, many of whom hate us), and (4) create American jobs.

Click on the title for this section for the text of Al Gore's speech.

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Last post by UtahOwl
Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:03 am
To Go "Beyond The Call of Duty" - Info About Three Background Books - For Nov. 12
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Thomas Friedman's "Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America" (Hardcover 9/8/2008 - available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $15.37 new or $10.95 used + shipping). Suggested by "solutions."

Thomas Friedman is a syndicated columnist for the NY Times and a prolific author. "Hot, Flat, and Crowded" is largely a non-technical version of Option C below.

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T. Boone Pickens' "The First Billion Is The Hardest: Reflections on a Life of Comebacks and America's Energy Future" (Hardcover 9/2/2008 - available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 new or $13.00 used + shipping). Suggested by "solutions."

T. Boone Pickens is a famous oil man who proposes long-term solar and wind in line with Options A and C - but notes that America has virtually unlimited reserves of natural gas and proposes tapping American natural gas immediately to eliminate political dependency on foreign producers and eliminate the $750 billion/year paid to foreign producers as a bridge until solar- and wind-power can be implemented on a large scale.

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"Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free: A Roadmap for U.S. Energy Policy" by Arjun Makhijani (11/15/2007 - available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $12.21 new or $9.99 used + shipping). Suggested by "UtahOwl."

Arjun Makhijani is President of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research (http://www.ieer.org). He has authored or co-authored many books, articles, and reports on energy, nuclear weapons and environmental issues. He has testified before Congress and appeared on national ABC, CBS, BBC, CNN, and NPR news programs, among others. He has written for the Washington Post, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, Technology Review, and many other publications. He has a PhD from the University of California at Berkeley where he specialized in nuclear fusion.

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Last post by johnkarls
Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:07 am
Additional Ref Materials - Al Gore's Challenge to America - for Nov. 12

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Last post by solutions
Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:05 am
Participant Comments - Al Gore's Challenge to America - for Nov. 12

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Last post by johnkarls
Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:17 pm
Suggested Discussion Outline - Team of Rivals - Oct. 8

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Last post by BillV
Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:03 pm
Participant Comments - "Team of Rivals - Oct 8
At our September meeting, we voted to focus on Leslie Urry's recommendation of "Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln" by Dorothy Kearns Goodwin, Pulitzer-Prize winning Presidential historian and frequent guest on "Meet the Press" and "The MacNeil/Lehrer Report" (aka The Newshour with Jim Lehrer). It is available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $14.28 + shipping.

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Last post by johnkarls
Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:36 pm
Suggested Discussion Outline - Barack Obama's Bible - Sep 10

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Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:09 am
Participant Comments - "Barack Obama's Bible = Rules for Radicals" - Sep 10
"Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky (available at your local library or from Amazon.com in paperback for $10.36 + shipping).

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Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:26 am
Ref Mats - "Barack Obama's Bible = Rules for Radicals" - Sep 10
"Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky (available at your local library or from Amazon.com in paperback for $10.36 + shipping).

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Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:17 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Aug 13

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Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:49 am
Comments of Participants - Obama From Promise to Power - Aug 13

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Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:05 am
Reference Mats - Obama From Promise to Power - Aug 13
Ordinarily, we provide the NY Times book review among other things. However, during the last month, the NY Times has replaced its extremely cumbersome search capability with one powered by Google, which is completely inadequate!!! No Boolean search terms, no date ranges, no listing of results by date, etc., etc. As a result, the book review for “Obama: From Promise to Power” could not be located!!!

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Suggested Discussion Outline - Everything About Oil - July 9th

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:50 am
Comments of Participants - Everything About Oil - July 9th

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Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:41 am
Reference Materials - Everything About Oil - July 9th
Including NY Times Book Review of "American Theocracy: The Peril and Politics of Radical Religion, Oil, and Borrowed Money in the 21st Century" by Kevin Phillips

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Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:07 am
Tim Russert Eulogies
This is a eulogy contained in our weekly e-mail sent Saturday June 14th between 6:17 am and 7:25 am MDT and the responses from some of our e-mail recipients. Please feel free to add yours.

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Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:48 am
July Meeting - Possible Topics (historical)

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Mon May 05, 2008 1:03 pm
Suggested Discussion Outline - "Infidel" - June 11

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:01 am
“Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali – for June 11
Ayaan Hirsi Ali came to the attention of the wider world in an extraordinary way. In 2004 a Muslim fanatic, after shooting the filmmaker Theo van Gogh dead on an Amsterdam street, pinned a letter to Mr. van Gogh’s chest with a knife. Addressed to Ms. Hirsi Ali, the letter called for holy war against the West and, more specifically, for her death. A Somali by birth and a recently elected member of the Dutch Parliament, Ms. Hirsi Ali had waged a personal crusade to improve the lot of Muslim women. Her warnings about the dangers posed to the Netherlands by unassimilated Muslims made her Public Enemy No. 1 for Muslim extremists, a feminist counterpart to Salman Rushdie. The circuitous, violence-filled path that led Ms. Hirsi Ali from Somalia to the Netherlands is the subject of “Infidel,” her brave, inspiring and beautifully written memoir. Narrated in clear, vigorous prose, it traces the author’s geographical journey from Mogadishu to Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia and Kenya, and her desperate flight to the Netherlands to escape an arranged marriage. At the same time, Ms. Hirsi Ali describes a journey “from the world of faith to the world of reason,” a long, often bitter struggle to come to terms with her religion and the clan-based traditional society that defined her world and that of millions of Muslims all over the world

Available from your local public library or from Amazon.com IN PAPERBACK for $10.20 + shipping

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Comments of Participants - "Infidel" - June 11th
“Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali is available from your local public library or from Amazon.com IN PAPERBACK for $10.20 + shipping

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Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:57 am
Reference Materials - "Infidel" - June 11th
“Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali is available from your local public library or from Amazon.com IN PAPERBACK for $10.20 + shipping

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Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:04 pm
Suggested Discussion Outline - Bush's Law - May 14

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Sat May 10, 2008 7:45 am
Eric Lichtblau's “Bush’s Law: The Remaking of American Justice” – May 14
Eric Lichtblau, NY Times reporter, won the Pulitzer Prize for his articles disclosing the Bush Administration's secret surveillance program. His new book "off press" 4/1/2008 focuses on the secret-surveillance program but also addresses the famous 2003 Justice Department legal memorandum (1) which gave the legal rationalia for "aggressive interrogation" techniques, (2) which was withdrawn 9 months after its issuance, and (3) which was recently made public as the result of an ACLU "Freedom of Information Act" lawsuit.

JOIN US AS WE COMPARE THE GENESIS OF THE NEXT WAR IN IRAN. IN THIS REGARD, PLEASE SEE QUESTIONS 1 & 2 OF "THE SHORT QUIZ" IN THE "PARTICIPANT COMMENTS" SECTION BELOW AND "BARACK AND HILLARY - STARTING THE NEXT WAR WITH IRAN BEFORE EVEN FINISHING THE LAST WAR IN IRAQ " (ALSO IN "PARTICIPANT COMMENTS")

Suggested by "solutions" on 4/3/2008

"Bush's War" is available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 + shipping or by e-mailing "readingliberallyemaillist@johnkarls.com" with the subject = "book loan requested."

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Participant Comments - "Bush's Law" - May 14
Eric Lichtblau's "Bush's Law: The Remaking of American Justice" available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 + shipping OR by e-mailing "readingliberallyemaillist@johnkarls.com" with the subject = "book loan requested"

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Thu May 01, 2008 11:36 am
Reference Materials - "Bush's Law" - May 14
Eric Lichtblau's "Bush's Law: The Remaking of American Justice" available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 + shipping OR by e-mailing "readingliberallyemaillist@johnkarls.com" with the subject = "book loan requested"

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Fri May 09, 2008 12:39 am
Clone Rights: Involuntary Soldiers, Sex Slaves, Human "Lab Rats" Etc. - Apr 9
How would you like to be an involuntary soldier, sex slave, human "lab rat" etc. WITH NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS JUST BECAUSE (1) the stem cells from which you were created came from skin cells rather than an embryo, or (2) your DNA is only 99% of the way from chimp DNA to human DNA (or any of the chimp-human DNA combinations the Yale U Biology Dept has created and is creating)??? Re (2), how do legal classifications based on % of human DNA differ from legal classifications in the Old South based on % of African-American blood, or legal classifications in Hitler's Third Reich based on % of Jewish blood???

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Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:51 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Apr 9th

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Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:33 am
Participant Comments/Ref Mats - Clone Rights for Apr 9

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Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:39 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Mar 13

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Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:03 am
Benazir Bhutto's "Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" - for Mar. 13
Benazir Bhutto was assassinated Dec. 27 while campaigning for Prime Minister of Pakistan. She had served twice as Pakistan’s Prime Minister (1988-90 and 1993-96, being deposed both times by the military). She was the first female to head the government of any Islamic Country. Her father, Ali Bhutto, also served as Prime Minister – he was executed in 1979 by the military government that deposed him. Benazir Bhutto received her B.A. in Comparative Government from Harvard, where she was Phi Beta Kappa. She then studied Politics, Philosophy and Economics (“PP&E”) at Oxford – the typical educational background of most British Prime Ministers (except Churchill who attended Sandhurst - Britain's West Point). While there, she was elected President of the Oxford Union – the first Asian woman to head Oxford’s most prestigious debating society. DISCOVER WHY BEING THE ONLY ISLAMIC NUCLEAR POWER (AND BEING THE SOURCE OF IRANIAN AND NORTH KOREAN NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY) AND BEING HOME TO AL QAIDA AND THE TALIBAN MAKE PAKISTAN'S FEBRUARY 18TH PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION AMERICA'S MOST CRUCIAL 2008 ELECTION!!!

"Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" (Harper Collins 2008) is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.54 + shipping.

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Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:30 am
Critiques of Benezir Bhutto’s “Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West” - Mar 13th
My critiques in six major areas to “Reconciliation” are collected here. Most of them draw, despite dispensing with footnotes for the sake of brevity and simplicity, on having read 12-15 biographies and historical tomes annually for 33 years of marriage (and the 7 years since) to the co-author of the country’s best-selling H.S. world history text (McGraw-Hill with National Geographic maps/illustrations – now in its 6th edition and counting). Despite these critiques, it is impossible to express how utterly impressed I am with the incredible knowledge and understanding possessed by Benazir Bhutto, how completely devoted she was to the welfare of the Islamic world in general and her country in particular, and how incredibly brave she was in fatally confronting a military that had already assassinated her father and two brothers.

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Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:13 am
Background Materials - Mar. 13
Benazir Bhutto's "Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" (Harper Collins 2008) is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.54 + shipping.

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Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:20 pm
Comments of Participants - Mar. 13
Benazir Bhutto's "Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" (Harper Collins 2008) is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.54 + shipping.

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Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:16 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Feb 14th

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Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:30 am
DRINKing Liberally Presentation - Fri Eve Feb 29
The 2009-2010 “Old Congress” and Why “Change” Will Never Happen (Again)

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Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:00 am
"The Best Gov Money Can Buy: Bribery and Extortion" - Text of Original Proposal for Feb 14
Or why Barack Obama doesn't have any greater chance to bring real "change" than William J. Clinton when he ran as "The Candidate of Change" in 1992 promising the same things now on offer from Barack Obama (such as health care, though now not nearly so universal as attempted by the Clintons in the 1990's).

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Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:44 pm
Proposed Solution to The Cesspool that is Washington DC - for Feb 14

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Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:05 pm
Illegal “Bribe” vs. “Legal” Campaign Contribution - Feb 14th
Alternate Title = The Crime of Telling the Truth!!!

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Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:26 am
Participant Comments - The Best Gov Money Can Buy: Bribery & Extortion - Feb 14th
Focus for discussion = Robert Kuttner's "The Squandering of America: How the Failure of Our Politics Undermines Our Prosperity" (Alfred A. Knopf 2007) - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 ($14.89 used) + shipping

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Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:03 pm
Background Mats - The Best Gov Money Can Buy: Bribery & Extortion - Feb 14th
Focus for discussion = Robert Kuttner's "The Squandering of America: How the Failure of Our Politics Undermines Our Prosperity" (Alfred A. Knopf 2007) - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 ($14.89 used) + shipping

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Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:50 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Jan 10th

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Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:58 pm
Illegal Immigration = Topic for Jan 10th
Click here for BillV's provocative issues!!!

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Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:59 am
Participant Comments on Immigration - Jan 10th

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Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:05 am
Reference Materials - Immigration - Jan 10

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Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:18 am
Leading Dem Candidates on Immigration - Jan 10
Clinton/Obama/Edwards/Biden (top 4 in polling order as of Dec 16) positions per their official web sites. If your favorite candidate is not one of these four and you believe his position should be considered, please feel free to post it here. NB: NEITHER EDWARDS' NOR BIDEN'S WEB SITES LIST IMMIGRATION OR BORDERS AMONG THEIR ISSUES!!!

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Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:10 am
Leading Rep Candidates on Immigration - Jan 10
A wise person always considers what the opposition is saying - Giuliani/Huckabee/McCain/Romney/Thompson (top 5 in polling order as of Dec 16) positions per their official web sites. NB: (1) IMMIGRATION WAS THE FIRST ISSUE ON HUCKABEE'S WEB SITE!!! (2) GIULIANI'S WEB SITE DOES NOT EVEN LIST IMMIGRATION OR BORDERS AS ONE OF HIS 12 ISSUES!!!

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Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:55 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Dec 13th

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Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:17 am
Call to Action - Meeting Report for Dec 13th
This posting comprises our first weekly e-mail following our December 13th meeting – our e-mail list has 108 members.

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Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:55 am
Is War With Iran Inevitable??? - Topic for Dec 13
Including Hillary Clinton's Repeated Bashing of the Bush Administration for "Being Soft on Iran" + Israel's Bombing Syria 9/6/2007 and Israel's Iranian Plans. These three postings include (1) Pat's original proposal of this topic, (2) the careful analysis on 9/18/2007 by the former Editor of the Jerusalem Post of what happened when Israel bombed Syria on 9/6/2007 (a subject about which nobody in the U.S. or abroad was saying anything, and about which very little continues to be said) and (3) the "Face the Nation" transcript for 10/28/2007 of Sen. Armed Services Chair Carl Levin (D-MI) and Minority Member Lindsey Graham (R-SC) for which Moderator Bob Schieffer said in his introduction: "The foreign-affairs focus of the major Presidential candidates, both Democrat and Republican, seems to have swung from Iraq to Iran. On the Republican side, Guiliani, Romney, et. al., seem to be competing to provide the most emphatic sound bite that they will stop at nothing to insure that Iran does not obtain nuclear weapons. While Hillary is acting as if she already has the nomination and is already waging a general-election campaign in which she appears to be just as belligerent/militant toward Iran."

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Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:14 am
Hillary's Bashing Bush as "Soft on Iran" - for Dec 13
Hillary's 1/18/2007 Princeton Speech + 4/24/2007 Speech to the National Jewish Democratic Council + Hilary as the lone Democratic Presidential Candidate to vote for the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment on 9/26/2007

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Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:20 pm
Action v. Deterrance (+ Detente) - for Dec 13
Summary of basic considerations for action v. deterrance vis-a-vis Iran's nuclear program (including the Islamic belief that Islamic martyrs by-pass The Judgment Day coupled with Osama bin Ladin's Fatwa to Nuke 10 million Americans (please see below for reference materials re the Fatwa)) + Foreign Affairs article on nuclear detente with Iran

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Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:40 pm
Bombing Syria 9/6/2007 Re Iran & N Korea - for Dec 13
Please see above “Is War With Iran Inevitable??? – Topic for Dec 13” for the 9/18/2007 analysis of Israel’s 9/6/2007 bombing of Syria and its connection to North Korea by the former Editor of the Jerusalem Post. The postings collected here comprise (1) the 11/11/2007 analysis by the NY Times of the Pakistani nuclear weapons with reference to the current Pakistani crisis, (2) the 9/25/2007 initial reaction of John Bolton to Israel’s 9/6/2007 bombing of Syria, and (3) the 10/31/2007 analysis of John Bolton THAT ISRAEL HAD BOMBED AN EXACT REPLICA OF NORTH KOREA’S NUCLEAR FACILITY BUILT IN SYRIA BY THE NORTH KOREANS TO CIRCUMVENT THE SIX-NATION TALKS REGARDING NORTH KOREAN NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT. (John Bolton was U.S. Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control (2001-2005) and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-20006))

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Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:06 pm
Participant Comments Re War With Iran - for Dec 13
The first posting is by "solutions" and comprises the book review by the Wall Street Journal (probably Israel's strongest supporter in the American media) of "Failure Is Not An Option" by John Bolton (U.S. Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control (2001-2005) and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-20006)). The fourth posting is the "Face the Nation" transcript for Nov. 25 re Condi Rice's Mideast Peace Conference involving 50 nations at Camp David and the inter-relationship between the conference and War on Iran/Iraq/Terror.

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Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:09 pm
Ref Mats - Osama's Fatwa To Nuke 10 Million Americans - Dec 13
"Action vs. Deterrence (+ Detente)" reference materials regarding the third reason for action vis-à-vis Iran (the Islamic belief that Islamic martyrs by-pass The Judgment Day coupled with Osama bin Ladin's Fatwa to nuke 10 million Americans) = (A) 9/5/2004 NY Times Book Review of “Nuclear Terrorism” by Graham Allison, the Founding Dean of Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, on Osama’s Fatwa (at that time to nuke only 4 million Americans); (B) 5/29/2005 “Meet the Press” transcript of then Sen Fgn Rel Ch Richard Lugar, his Democratic predecessor Sam Nunn and Messrs. Kean/Hamilton (9/11 Ch & Co-Ch) on Osama’s Fatwa (by then to nuke 10 million Americans); (C) 6/4/2007 proposal of current Sen Fgn Rel Ch & Presidential Candidate Joe Biden to threaten nuclear annihilation against any country whose fissile materials are used by a terrorist in a nuclear attack on the U.S.; and (D) 6/12/2007 proposal of Stanford Prof. William Perry (Clinton’s Sec/Defense) and Harvard Prof. Ashton Carter (Clinton’s Ass’t Sec/Defense for Intl Security Policy) to enact a federal law that the U.S. military (vs. state & local “first responders”) will be responsible for coping with the aftermath of nuclear terrorism and, in passing, blast Biden’s nuclear-annihilation proposal. NB: (1) Dean Allison believes nuclear terrorism is preventable by keeping track of fissile materials while Nunn/Lugar/Kean/Hamilton believe Allison’s approach is “locking the barn after the horse is out” and examine ways to DELAY TEMPORARILY nuclear attacks on the U.S.; (2) Biden’s nuclear-annihilation threat appears to be based on Allison’s “lock the barn” approach.

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Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:50 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Nov 8th

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:06 am
The Controversy That Is Bill Cosby for Nov 8th

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Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:57 am
Participant Comments - School Integration & The Jena Six - for Nov 8th

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Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:34 am
The KKK - "All The Best People In Society Belonged" - for Nov. 8th
This item is a synopsis of a book copyrighted by the Univ. of California Regents documenting the pervasive influence of the Ku Klux Klan IN THE UPPER MIDWEST. Aaron Stander's addition calls attention to the pervasive influence of the KKK in New England.

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Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:43 am
Background Mats - School Integration & The Jena Six - for Nov 8th

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Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:47 am
Suggested Discussion Outline - Oct 11th

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:40 am
Participant Comments Re Global Warming for Oct 11th
Focus for Discussion = “Big Coal: The Dirty Secret Behind America’s Energy Future” by Jeff Goodell © 2006 (available from your local library or in paperback from Amazon.com for $10.17 new/$8.88 used + shipping).

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:08 am
Suggested Background Materials Re Global Warming for Oct 11th
Focus for Discussion = “Big Coal: The Dirty Secret Behind America’s Energy Future” by Jeff Goodell © 2006 (available from your local library or in paperback from Amazon.com for $10.17 new/$8.88 used + shipping).

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Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:23 pm
October Meeting - Possible Topics (historical)

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Suggested Discussion Outline - Sep 6th

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:55 am
Participant Comments on "Assault on Reason" for Sep 6th
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This section was restored on 3 July 2009 – prior to sabotage, the following items had received –

270 views – U.S. Ports = Major Polluters
510 views – Electricity – The Biggest Polluter
467 views – Comments of John Karls on “Assault on Reason”
360 views – Al Gore and the 2008 Nomination
268 views – “Draft Gore for President” – Internet Grass Roots
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Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:29 pm
Suggested Background Materials re "Assault on Reason" for Sep 6th
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This section was restored on 3 July 2009 – prior to sabotage, the following item had received –

214 views – NY Times Book Review of “Assault on Reason”
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Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:18 pm
Suggested Discussion Outline - Aug 2d

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Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:04 am
Suggested Background Materials on Universal Health Care for Aug. 2d

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Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:28 am
Comments of Participants - Universal Health Care for Aug 2nd

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