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  • General Info + Info Re Next Meeting Wed Evening May 10th
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    NEXT MEETING

    PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE FOURTH SECTION BELOW FOR INFORMATION ABOUT OUR NEXT MEETING.

    Please join us for socializing from 6:15 pm > 7:00 pm or, if you prefer, come only from 7:00 pm > 8:55 pm for our formal discussion. We provide coffee/decaf and chocolate-chunk cookies and peanut-butter cookies. Or you could bring your own snack from home or the Salt Lake Roasting Co. branch on the first floor of the library.

    [Everyone is welcome to join John Karls afterwards half a block south at Cannella's for drinks to socialize and/or continue the discussion -- everyone is welcome but Dutch treat.]

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    WHO/WHAT WE ARE

    We are a U.S. public-policy monthly discussion group founded in the Fall of 2005 that meets on the second or third Wednesday of each month at the Salt Lake Library (210 East 400 South).

    The topic is selected by the attendees of the previous month’s meeting. The focus is usually a book but frequently comprises only news items from magazines/newspapers/etc. This bulletin board serves, inter alia, as a place for members to post comments or additional reference materials prior to each meeting.

    Our attendance averages 11-12. Participants come from all walks of life but our regular attendees include 5 attorneys and 3 University of Utah scientists.

    There are approx. 150 recipients of our weekly newsletter, many of whom reside outside Utah. In each monthly cycle, the first newsletter announces the topic, the second includes a Short Quiz, the third includes Suggested Answers, and the fourth includes a Suggested Discussion Outline.

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    26 SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGNS AND 1 SHORT-FUSE CAMPAIGN

    We take great pride in our Six-Degrees-Of-Separation E-mail campaigns to America's decision makers such as President Obama which, with only a few computer keyboard key strokes, can be sent by each of our members (1) to the decision maker, and (2) to all of the member's friends and acquaintances requesting them to do the same in an unending chain.

    Accordingly, we also take great pride that each of our official recommendations has been approved unanimously at one of our meetings or, at most, received only one dissent (in which case we say there was a "consensus" rather than "unanimity").

    All 26 e-mail campaigns over the years are collected in this section. They include 6 e-mails sent by John Karls that did not receive an official endorsement for the rest of our members to send. The titles of the 19 official recommendations are ALL CAPS and the titles of 6 unofficial recommendations are lower case.

    In addition, there is occasionally posted in the next section “Proposed Topic for Future Meetings” a proposal which has a SHORT-TIME FUSE because a governmental unit is soliciting PUBLIC COMMENTS for a limited time period with a SPECIFIED DEADLINE that will occur before our next regularly-scheduled meeting.

    In such cases, our weekly e-mail invites all of our approximately 150 members to participate in an Ad Hoc Working Group and, if they take action, the results are posted in this section with the prefix “Short Fuse” -- rather than the meeting date for which further details are available by scrolling down to that date.

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    SIGNING UP FOR OUR WEEKLY E-MAIL

    If you would like to receive our weekly newsletter, please send an e-mail to ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com with a subject, “Please Add Me To Weekly E-mail List.”

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    SIGNING UP TO POST ON THIS BULLETIN BOARD

    Due to sabotage and porn attacks, only attendees of one or more of our meetings are permitted to post on this bulletin board.

    If you have attended one of our meetings and would like to register to post something, please send an E-mail to ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com with the subject, “Please Register Me For The Bulletin Board.”
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  • Possible Topics for Future Meetings
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    Click here to view possible topics for future meetings. Participants of each monthly meeting vote for the topic of the next monthly meeting.

    If you would like to suggest a topic, it is requested as a courtesy that your suggestion be posted here at least 24 hours in advance so that others will have time to give it proper consideration.

    EXPIRATION. We have always had a rule that a Possible Topic remains active so long as it receives at least one vote every six meetings. However, if a possible-topic proposal contains a wealth of information that is worth preserving but has not received a vote for six consecutive meetings, it is retained but listed as “Expired."

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    SHORT-FUSE NOTICE

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    EXPLANATION

    Occasionally, a Proposed Topic for Future Meetings has a SHORT-TIME FUSE because a governmental unit is soliciting PUBLIC COMMENTS for a limited time period with a SPECIFIED DEADLINE.

    Exhibit A would be the 8/5/2016 Proposed Topic entitled “Clone Rights -- Involuntary Soldiers, Sex Slaves, Human Lab Rats, Etc.”

    We had already focused on this topic for our 4/9/2008 meeting more than 8 years ago when the PBS Newshour interviewed a Yale U. Biology Professor who had already created a “Chimaera” with 25% Human DNA and 75% Chimp DNA (Chimps are the animals that share the most DNA with humans).

    The Yale U. Biology Professor stated that he was then (2008) in the process of creating a “Chimaera” with 50% Human DNA and 50% Chimp DNA, and that he planned to create in the near future (2008 et seq.) a “Chimaera” with 75% Human DNA and 25% Chimp DNA.

    As our 4/9/2008 meeting materials posted on http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org disclose, Gwen Ifill who conducted the interview, was oblivious to the issue of the Nazi’s definition of a Jew based on the percentage of Jewish heritage and the Ante-Bellum American South’s definition of African-American based on the percentage of Sub-Saharan-African heritage.

    But, even more appallingly, Gwen Ifill failed to ask the obvious question = What happens if the 50%-50% “Chimaera” then already being created happens to exhibit as DOMINANT TRAITS 100% Human DNA and as RECESSIVE TRAITS 100% Chimp DNA!!! Which, of course, would mean that Yale U. was treating as a lab rat a “Chimaera” that is 100% Human!!!

    Unfortunately, the 8/5/2016 Proposed Topic was prompted by a Proposal from the National Institute of Health (NIH) which appeared in The Federal Register of 8/5/2016 and which had a 9/6/2016 deadline for public comments!!!

    So our 9/14/2016 meeting, which was the first for which our focus had not already been determined as of 8/5/2016 under our normal rules, was too late.

    So the reason for inaugurating this Short-Fuse Notice Section is to provide a Special Heads Up that a Proposed Topic has a Public-Comment Deadline that will occur before the first regular meeting date at which the topic can be discussed -- so that any of our readers who want to comply with the Public-Comment Deadline can contact the Proposer of the Topic in order to confer with anyone else who may be considering comments by the deadline.

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    PENDING SHORT-FUSE PROPOSALS

    1. Re “Clone Rights -- Involuntary Soldiers, Sex Slaves, Human Lab Rats, Etc.” (proposed 8/5/2016), although the 9/6/2016 public-comment deadline of the National Institute of Health (NIH) has passed, this Topic Proposal is still active. PLEASE NOTE ATTACHED TO THIS PROPOSAL THE 1/29/2017 UPDATE ENTITLED0 “HUMAN-PIG CHIMERAS -- DECENT BEHAVIOR DESPITE OPEN BARN DOOR.”

    2. Re “Destroying Great Salt Lake To Grow Low-Profit Hay For China” (proposed 9/27/2016), there is a 10/24/2016 public-comment deadline that will occur before our first possible regular meeting (11/16/2016) at which this Proposed Topic could be considered.
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  • Possible Topic Beginning Fall 2011 - Inner-City Holocaust and America's Apartheid "Justice" System (In Honor of Jonathan Kozol and In Memory of John Howard Griffin)
    “Inner-City Holocaust and America’s Apartheid ‘Justice’ System” is a book that “Yours Truly” has (except for the final chapter) already written and placed in safe hands. However, the last chapter cannot be written before Fall 2011 because it will record the actions taken, if any, by the recipients of the 5 letters whose texts are posted in this section (the casual reader would best start with the letters to Messrs. Axelrod/Plouffe and to Sen. Chris Coons) =

    (1) to President Obama and 20 other US & California governmental officials imploring them AS THEY REFUSED TO DO LAST YEAR to cause Amicus Curiae briefs to be filed on behalf of 10 million inner-city children and thereby REPRESENT THEIR OWN CONSTITUENTS.

    (2) to Gwen Ifill and 42 other news-media superstars imploring them AS THEY REFUSED TO DO LAST YEAR to provide the same kind of spotlight on the lawsuits involving the 10 million inner-city children that they routinely provide for, say, David Boies and his Proposition 8 lawsuits.

    (3) to 51 inner-city clergy from Los Angeles, San Francisco and Oakland CA providing the latest report on what the report described as “The Segregated Toilet and The Fatal Flush” – the “Segregated Toilet” being the abhorrent practice, even authorized by statute in California, that judges can flush away the rights of minorities in opinions THAT CANNOT BE PUBLISHED OR CITED because the judges know that the opinions are diametrically opposed to the well-settled law enjoyed by first-class American citizens.

    (4) to Messrs. David Axelrod and David Plouffe, the Chicago- and Washington-based co-heads of President Obama’s Reelection Campaign providing them a “heads up” on what is “going down” because the aim of “Inner-City Holocaust” is to make the inaction of the 21 governmental officials an issue in any 2012 re-election campaigns in which they are involved – by making “Inner-City Holocaust” available without charge and electronically for ethics classes in law schools and divinity schools, and in undergraduate courses in political science, ethics/philosophy, sociology, etc.

    (5) to U.S. Senator Christopher Coons from Delaware, newly elected last November, to provide him a “heads up” on what is “going down” because Senator Coons served with “Yours Truly” in the 1990’s on the national “I Have A Dream”® Board as Secretary and Treasurer, respectively, and it was IHAD- and IHAD-style programs that the $84 billion involved in the lawsuits was designed to provide for the 10-million inner-city children.

    “Inner-City Holocaust” has been written In Memory Of John Howard Griffin whose “Black Like Me” half a century ago tried to convince America of its racism.

    It is also written in honor of Jonathan Kozol whose award-winning books over the last half century have tried to convince America that it has created a permanent “untouchable” under-caste as a result of its racism – (1) The Shame of the Nation: The Restoration of Apartheid Schooling in America (2005); (2) Ordinary Resurrections: Children in the Years of Hope (2001); (3) Amazing Grace: The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation (1995); (4) Savage Inequalities: Children in America’s Schools (1991); (5) Rachel and Her Children (1988); (6) Illiterate America (1985); (7) The Night is Dark and I Am Far From Home: Political Indictment of US Public Schools (1975); (8) Death at an Early Age (1967)

    One might wonder why I am placing myself on the same stage as these two Saints. I’m not. They are on pedestals in my place of worship. Like one of Ghandi’s followers, it is my turn to have my head bashed in since the expected reactions to the prospect of “Inner-City Holocaust” are to try to defame me and to try to explain why the racism of the judges involved, the 21 governmental officials and the 43 news-media super-stars is all my fault rather than theirs.
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  • Addendum - Inner-City Holocaust and America's Apartheid "Justice" System
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    The previous section of this bulletin board includes copies of 4 letters over 2 years to President Obama and 20 other US & California governmental officials imploring each to cause Amicus Curiae briefs to be filed on behalf of 10 million inner-city children. Each of the 4 letters, using President Obama as an example, began with:

    Dear Mr. President:

    Re: $84 Billion Legally Pledged For Education of Californian Inner-City Children Rapidly Slipping Away Due To Judicial Improprieties – AMICUS BRIEFS UNDER US SUPREME COURT RULE 37(2) NEEDED URGENTLY!!!

    The previous section also includes copies of 4 letters over 2 years to 43 news-media superstars. Each of the 4 letters, using Gwen Ifill as an example, began with:

    Dear Ms. Ifill:

    Re: $84 Billion Legally Pledged For Education of Californian Inner-City Children Rapidly Slipping Away Due To Judicial Improprieties – EQUAL PROTECTION BY THE MEDIA URGENTLY NEEDED!!!

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    “Equal Protection of the Media” recognizes that the only practical way to get the US Supreme Court to agree to hear an appeal is what David Boies always does vis-à-vis his litigation, such as his current gay-rights litigation = get the media to report on his cases. Indeed, the first letter to the 43 news-media superstars cited CNN broadcasts re the gay-rights litigation as trumpeting “the Supreme Court justices do not live in a vacuum -- they are influenced by media reporting in deciding whether an issue is so important that the Court should accept an appeal.”

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    The letters informed the 21 governmental officials and 43 news-media superstars of the “Question Presented For Review” by the U.S. Supreme Court =

    “Can state court judges order their decisions which they know are diametrically-opposed to well-settled law, not to be published or cited (a strategy labeled ‘the segregated toilet’ in correspondence with 51 inner-city clergy who represent the 10 million inner-city children who have been disclosed from the outset as the ‘real parties at interest’ in this law suit) in order to flush away the rights of the 10 million inner-city children without disturbing the rights of first-class American citizens -- without violating the ‘Equal Protection of the Law’ requirement of the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution?”

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    None of the 21 governmental officials or 43 news-media superstars did anything to save the 10 million inner-city children EVEN THOUGH EACH OF THEM KNEW THAT A SINGLE AMICUS BRIEF OR A SINGLE NEWS-MEDIA ITEM MIGHT HAVE BEEN SUFFICIENT TO SAVE THE CHILDREN.

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    The previous section contains copies of reference materials through 6/15/2011 -- the date of the last set of letters to the 21 governmental officials and 43 news-media superstars to inform them that the Petition for Certiorari (request to agree to hear an appeal) had just been filed with the US Supreme Court.

    This section of the bulletin board contains subsequent letters to --

    Jonathan Kozol (6/22/11) to provide him a “heads up” that “Inner-City Holocaust and America’s Apartheid ‘Justice’ System” was being written in his honor.

    Marcia Coyle (6/29/2011), the PBS News Hour’s regular Supreme Court reporter/analyst.

    Marc Morial (7/28/2011), CEO of the National Urban League with a copy to his wife, Michelle Miller, CBS News super-star.

    Also included is the final report to each of the 51 inner-city clergy from San Francisco, Los Angeles and Oakland who had been supporting the cause to (A) inform them that the US Supreme Court on 10/4/2011 refused to hear our appeal, (B) thank them for their efforts with the solace that each of us would be able to say at The Pearly Gates with St. Paul (II Timothy 4:7): “I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith” and (C) request them and their congregants to pray for the souls of the 43 news-media superstars, the 21 governmental officials, the California judges and the U.S. Supreme Court Justices.
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  • Original Proposal – Authoritarian Rule by Our Intelligence Services – May 10
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  • Reference Materials – Authoritarian Rule by Our Intelligence Services – May 10
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    Ordinarily we post in this “Reference Materials” section, inter alia, book reviews of the focus book.

    However, since Orwell’s 1984 was published in 1949, it is unlikely that any book reviews of that period would have anticipated what an epic 1984 became.

    And virtually all of us read 1984 for the first time in high school and remember well many of its features including “Big Brother” and “Big Brother is watching you”!!!

    Accordingly, there is posted instead the current Wikipedia article on 1984 (our apologies to everyone who recalls our mantra that “Wikipedia articles are only as good as their footnotes,” but they are often a good place to start and provide a good summary).

    In addition, there is posted the current Wikipedia article on Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World” which was published 17 years earlier in 1932.

    Many, if not most, of us studied both together and, indeed, the first paragraph of the section of the Wikipedia article on 1984 that compares it to Brave New World, says --

    “In the decades since the publication of 1984, there have been numerous comparisons to the Aldous Huxley novel, Brave New World which was published 17 years earlier in 1932. They are both predictions of societies dominated by a central government, based on extensions of the trends of their times. But the ruling class of 1984 use brutal force, torture, and mind control to keep rebellious individuals in line, while Brave New World rulers keep citizens in line through addictive drugs and pleasurable distractions.”

    Also highly recommended are three articles from the Guardian that were proposed 9/12/2016 as a meeting topic by Utah Owl (aka June Taylor) entitled “The CIA - A Constitutional Crisis?” which said simply --

    “I propose that we read The Guardian's series ‘The Insider’ about Daniel Jones, a staffer on the Senate's intelligence oversight committee, who managed to obtain a copy of the highly secret ‘Panetta Report’ on the CIA's torture and other activities in the early days of the Iraq war. It is in three parts, all online at this point. Have a look and decide whether this is worth our attention!” Whereupon the proposal contained cross-links to the three articles in The Guardian.

    June’s 9/12/2016 topic proposal expired 2/8/2017 because it received no votes for 6 consecutive meetings.

    However, the three articles, together with June’s Original Proposal, are posted in this section.

    And although the three articles are lengthy, reading them is highly recommended because (1) they show how our intelligence officials often lie under oath concerning their activities, and (2) because they almost-routinely “leak” classified information betraying “sources and methods” which is a felony punishable by 10 years in prison.

    The “intelligence official” guilty of “leaking” in the imbroglio described in the three Guardian articles was Senate Foreign Intelligence Committee Chair Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) who was at war with President Obama and who admitted on 3/11/2014 that her staff had stolen 2 months earlier CIA documents that were then “leaked.”

    The reason why the Guardian articles are only “highly recommended” is to illustrate that there are many reasons why an “intelligence official” such as Sen. Feinstein might violate the law.

    However, our May 10th meeting will focus on only one reason -- the elimination from our democratic government of any official that the intelligence services dislike and the resulting Authoritarian Rule by Our Intelligence Services which must be stopped in its tracks.
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  • April 12 Meeting Cancellation
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    The question has arisen whether my obvious hostility for Thomas Friedman (please see the Participant Comments section below) contributed to our failure to achieve a minimum quorum of six positive RSVP’s.

    I believe that the record will show that the answer is negative.

    Yes, most of our members are aware of the lawsuits that I brought against 15 of the world’s largest financial institutions 2009-20011 for the $84 billion which they owed me and which, every penny, had been pledged in legally-binding fashion to benefit the education of 10 million inner-city children.

    [Those lawsuits are documented by hundreds, if not thousands, of documents that are contained in the third and fourth sections of this website entitled “Inner-City Holocaust and America’s ‘Apartheid’ Justice System (In Honor of Jonathan Kozol and In Memory of John Howard Griffin)”.]

    And yes, most of our members are aware that I wrote many letters while those lawsuits were pending to 43 news-media superstars imploring them to “shine a light” on what was transpiring.

    [An example of one of those letters is available for download from the fourth posting (entitled “18 May 2011 Letter to 43 News-Media Superstars”) posted in the third section of this website. BTW that letter contains as a second page a “blind file note” listing the 43 News-Media Superstars and their then-current addresses.]

    And yes, most of our members are aware that if any one of those 43 news-media superstars had “lifted a single finger” by writing a single news story or a single OpEd column, 10 million inner-city children might have been spared “a fate worse than death.”

    HOWEVER, I would be flabbergasted if any of our members had stopped to think during the last week since the announcement of his book, that Thomas Friedman was probably one of those 43 news-media superstars.

    The e-mail correspondence contained in this section of the bulletin board attempted to obtain our minimum quorum of six WITHOUT any trace of bitterness. Which I believe was accomplished.

    AND WITHOUT even a mention that Thomas Friedman was one of those 43 news-media superstars who “condemned to a fate worse than death” those 10 million inner-city children.

    AND NO, I will NOT shun reading his book -- because every book by a competent author contains important nuggets of information that were not theretofore known.

    BUT YES, I do NOT relish meetings for which we have lost our minimum quorum of six so that we are powerless to take effective action to benefit our nation (and, hopefully, the entire world).

    [We have only had to cancel 2-3 meetings in the course of our 11-plus years of existence due to a failure to achieve a minimum quorum of six. And there have only been 2-3 meetings during that period in which a minimum quorum of six was lost because of, for example, illness on a meeting date when we had fewer than our average 10-11 attendees.]

    John Karls – 18 March 2017
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  • Original Proposal - Thank You For Being Late: An Optimist’s Guide To Thriving in an Age of Accelerations – For April 12th
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  • Participant Comments - Thank You For Being Late: An Optimist’s Guide To Thriving in an Age of Accelerations – For April 12th
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    By the end of the first week of the monthly cycle (which is the deadline for obtaining six positive RSVP’s for the next meeting as our minimum quorum), Yours Truly has prepared The Short Quiz (or Two Short Quizzes if we are facing the once-per-quarter five-week gap between meetings).

    And by that time, Yours Truly has also prepared The Suggested Answers (or has a good idea of what they will say).

    This section contains, inter alia --

    The First Short Quiz (entitled “A Special Place In Hell For” Thomas Friedman)

    The Suggested Answers to the First Short Quiz

    The Second Short Quiz (entitled “Thomas Friedman, Godfather of the 1%”)

    The Suggested Answers to the Second Short Quiz

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  • Reference Materials - Thank You For Being Late: An Optimist’s Guide To Thriving in an Age of Accelerations – For April 12th
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  • Discussion Outline – Killing Millions of Sesame Street Miss Piggy’s For The Human Organs – March 8
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  • Original Proposal – Killing Millions of Sesame Street Miss Piggy’s For The Human Organs – March 8
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    On 8/5/2016, John Karls proposed a topic entitled ““Clone Rights: Involuntary Soldiers, Sex Slaves, Human ‘Lab Rats’ Etc.” which began -

    “I propose that we study today’s NIH Proposal for Human Stem Cell Research.

    “This would dovetail nicely with the focus of our 4/9/2008 meeting 8 years ago entitled “Clone Rights: Involuntary Soldiers, Sex Slaves, Human ‘Lab Rats’ Etc.” for which we viewed together -

    “The 2005 Hollywood movie “The Island” which starred Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson, and which dealt with the creation of human clones whose organs, whenever needed by their human “sponsors” who had financed their creation, could be harvested for transplant to the “sponsor” while the clones, of course, died;

    “and for which our short meeting description was -

    “How would you like to be an involuntary soldier, sex slave, human "lab rat" etc. WITH NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS JUST BECAUSE (1) the stem cells from which you were created came from skin cells rather than an embryo, or (2) your DNA is only 99% of the way from chimp DNA to human DNA (or any of the chimp-human DNA combinations the Yale U Biology Dept has created and is creating)??? Re (2), how do legal classifications based on % of human DNA differ from legal classifications in the Old South based on % of African-American blood, or legal classifications in Hitler's Third Reich based on % of Jewish blood???

    “There follows immediately below a description of the NIH proposal in Nature (the International Weekly Journal of Science), following which is the text of the NIH proposal itself as it appeared today in the Federal Register.”

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    1/29/2017 UPDATE

    On 1/29/2017, John Karls updated the proposal while changing the title to “Is The Fed Gov (NIH) Funding Nazi-Style Death Camps?” for which it is respectfully suggested the correct answer is “not yet, but soon.”

    The up-dating comprised 4 postings regarding the Salk Institute announcing the creation of Human-Pig Chimeras for purposes of cloning human organs for transplant to the human whose DNA had been combined with pig DNA.

    [“Chimera” is an animal created from DNA of two different species.]

    Salk’s Human-Pig Chimeras were aborted before birth.

    Under the 8/5/2016 NIH rules, there is NO PROHIBITION against the creation of Chimeras that have cloned human organs, even if doing so requires that the Chimera has a human or near-human brain.

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    REQUIREMENT OF A NEW TITLE

    As can be seen from the beginning of the 1/29/2017 posting entitled “Human-Pig Chimeras - Decent Behavior Despite Open Barn Door” and the conclusion of the 1/29/2017 posting entitled “Is The Fed Gov (NIH) Funding Nazi-Style Death Camps?” - John Karls took the moral stand that he would have nothing to do with our March 8th meeting unless it focused on this topic.

    To obtain the last 2 votes for a majority at our 2/8/2017 meeting, John had to agree NOT to use either the original title “Clone Rights...” or the updated title referring to “Nazi-Style Death Camps.”

    The 2 holdouts suggested a title based on “chimeras.”

    Fortunately, America is familiar with a fictional chimera - Sesame Street’s Miss Piggy who obviously has a human brain and presumably has human organs that are “ripe for the picking”!!!

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    SUGGESTED MEETING MATERIALS

    For anyone who has not seen “The Island” (2005) starring Scarlett Johansson and Ewan McGregor, please do so. (It can be rented from Amazon.com for $3.99.)

    And even if you have seen it, it is strongly recommended that you view it again while thinking of Scarlett Johansson as a Miss Piggy chimera.

    In addition, you should read all of the 7 items contained in John Karls’ topic proposal. They are reproduced in a special section below entitled “Original Proposal Reference Materials.”

    And as usual, you should read everything else that any of us posts in the “Participant Comments” or regular “Reference Materials” sections.
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  • Participant Comments – Killing Millions of Sesame Street Miss Piggy’s For The Human Organs – March 8
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    This section contains, inter alia --

    The Suggested Answers to the Short Quiz which are entitled --

    “Why William Shirer, the author of “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,” would say that America is morally INFERIOR to Nazi Germany”!!!
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  • Original Proposal Reference Materials – Killing Millions of Sesame Street Miss Piggy’s For The Human Organs – March 8
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    This section contains the 7 postings comprising the Original Proposal --

    (1) 8/5/2016 -- “Clone Rights -- Involuntary Soldiers, Sex Slaves, Lab Rats, Etc. (including the text of the NIH proposed changes to the 2009 Human Stem-Cell Research Guidelines as published in the 8/6/2016 Federal Register)

    (2) 8/5/2016 -- “What If Yale U’s 50% Human DNA Were All Dominant Traits???” (including the Discussion Outline for our 4/9/2008 meeting 8 years ago)

    (3) 8/9/2016 -- “Marked Changes To The 2009 Human Stem-Cell Research Guidelines”

    (4) 1/29/2017 -- “Human-Pig Chimeras -- Decent Behavior Despite Open Barn Door” (including 1/26/2017 Washington Post article)

    (5) 1/31/2017 -- “Is the Fed Gov (NIH) Funding Nazi-Style Death Camps?” (to which it is respectfully suggested that the correct answer is “not yet, but soon”)

    (6) 1/31/2017 -- “The Human-Pig Chimera Report From The Salk Institute” (ver batim text)

    (7) 2/7/2017 -- “The Article in Britain’s ‘Nature’ About Rat-Mouse Chimeras” (ver batim text)

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    These 7 postings were viewed 609 times before being transplanted here from the "Possible Topics for Future Meetings" section of this bulletin board.
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  • CALL TO ACTION - OPPOSING THE WANTON DESTRUCTION OF GREAT SALT LAKE – FEB 8TH
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  • Discussion Outline - The Mormon Church Condoning The Wanton Destruction Of Great Salt Lake – Feb 8th
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  • Original Proposal - The Mormon Church Condoning The Wanton Destruction Of Great Salt Lake – Feb 8th
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  • Participant Comments - The Mormon Church Condoning The Wanton Destruction Of Great Salt Lake – Feb 8th
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  • Reference Materials - The Mormon Church Condoning The Wanton Destruction Of Great Salt Lake – Feb 8th
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    This section contains book reviews for our focus book, Finders Keepers: A Tale of Archaeological Plunder and Obsession by Craig Childs from --

    (1) The Salt Lake Tribune
    (2) The Los Angeles Times
    (3) The New York Times

    However, as explained in the “Original Proposal” section above, we are using Finders Keepers as a guide for examining one aspect of a preliminary assessment of what would be involved in our pending challenge to The Mormon Church over its condoning of the Wanton Destruction of Great Salt Lake.

    Additional information concerning that imbroglio is available elsewhere on this website --

    The Mormon Church’s President and Twelve Apostles who govern its affairs, were each requested by certified-mail return-receipt on 10/31/2016 to issue a press release stating that (1) the Mormon Church will sponsor a “legislative initiative” pursuant to Utah Constitution Art. VI Sec. 1 and Utah Code Title 20A Chapter 7 to require an immediate cessation to the Bear River Pipeline Project AND the dedication of all Utah State Sales Tax Funds that would have been allocated to the Bear River Pipeline Project to be spent, instead, on purchasing (or taking by eminent domain) farmland to have been served by the Bear River Pipeline based on the value of the farmland if the full costs of the Bear River Pipeline were reflected 100% in water prices –- AND (2) if the Mormon Church’s “legislative initiative” should fail, the Mormon Church will lobby the U.S. Government to create a new National Park comprising the Great Salt Lake and its tributaries.

    All of the pertinent facts concerning the Wanton Destruction of Great Salt Lake (including the fact that 82% of all water usage in Utah goes to produce UNECONOMIC crops, the vast majority of which are sold as alfalfa hay to China!!!) are contained in the 10/31/2016 letters that were sent to the Mormon Church’s President and Twelve Apostles. However, background information such as the July 2014 two-volume engineering report and the Sep. 2016 Draft Water-Strategy White Paper prepared for the Utah Governor (in truly “ready – fire – aim” fashion six months AFTER the enactment of Senate Bill 80 approving the pipeline and its financing from Utah sales-tax receipts) can be downloaded from the posting entitled “Destroying Great Salt Lake To Grow Low-Profit Hay For China” in the second section of this website entitled “Possible Topics For Future Meetings.”

    The 10/31/2016 letters to each of the Mormon Church’s President and Twelve Apostles can be downloaded from the first posting entitled “Destroying Great Salt Lake To Grow Hay For China” in the first section of this website.

    In the 2.5 months since those letters were received by the President and Twelve Apostles who govern the Mormon Church, there has been no announcement that the Mormon Church will oppose the Bear River Pipeline.

    Accordingly, it is time to assess, at least preliminarily, whether we will take effective action to have the U.S. Government create a new National Park comprising the Great Salt Lake and its tributaries.
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  • Discussion Outline – Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters In The End – Jan 11
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    Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:56 pm
  • Original Proposal – Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters In The End – Jan 11
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    Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:02 am
  • Participant Comments – Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters In The End – Jan 11
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    Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:24 am
  • Reference Materials – Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters In The End – Jan 11
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    Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:14 pm
  • Discussion Outline – Makers and Takers: The Rise of Finance and the Fall of American Business – Dec 14
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    Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:41 pm
  • Original Proposal - Makers and Takers: The Rise of Finance and the Fall of American Business – Dec 14
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    Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:45 am
  • Participant Comments - Makers and Takers: The Rise of Finance and the Fall of American Business – Dec 14
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    Last post by Pat View the latest post
    Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:03 pm
  • Reference Materials - Makers and Takers: The Rise of Finance and the Fall of American Business – Dec 14
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    Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:53 pm
  • Discussion Outline - The Terror Years: From Al-Qaeda to the Islamic State – Nov 16
    CHANGE OF VENUE – Please note that we will be meeting on Wed Nov 16 at the home of Ted and Elizabeth (Tucker) Gurney because the library did not have room for us. If you plan to attend and haven’t RSVP’d yet, please do so and you will be informed of the address of the Gurneys’ home.
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    Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:13 am
  • Original Proposal - The Terror Years: From Al-Qaeda to the Islamic State – Nov 16
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    Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:07 pm
  • Participant Comments – The Terror Years: From Al-Qaeda to the Islamic State – Nov 16
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    Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:03 am
  • Reference Materials - The Terror Years: From Al-Qaeda to the Islamic State – Nov 16
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    Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:24 pm
  • Discussion Outline - Helping Children Succeed: What Works and Why - Oct 19
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    Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:45 pm
  • Original Proposal - Helping Children Succeed: What Works and Why - Oct 19
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    Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:39 pm
  • Participant Comments – Helping Children Succeed: What Works and Why - Oct 19
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    Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:50 am
  • Reference Materials – Helping Children Succeed: What Works and Why - Oct 19
    .
    Click here for 4 book reviews of Helping Children Succeed.

    Particularly recommended are –-


    (1) Prof. Diane Ravitch’s Blog --

    We studied Prof. Ravitch’s “Reign of Error: The Hoax of the School Privatization Movement” for our 6/17/2015 meeting, and Prof. Ravitch’s “The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education” for our 9/12/2012 meeting.

    Diane Ravitch is N.Y.U.’s Research Professor of Education and a historian of education. In addition, she is a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution and a former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Education.


    (2) The Psychology Today Magazine Review --

    The author of the article is Claudia M. Gold, MD --

    Harvard Medical School Professor associated with The Brazelton Institute of Boston’s Children’s Hospital.

    Director of Early Childhood Social-Emotional Health Program at Newton-Wellesley Hospital.

    An advanced scholar with the Berkshire Psychoanalytic Institute.

    The author of, inter alia, Keeping Your Child in Mind: Overcoming Defiance, Tantrums and Other Everyday Behavior Problems by Seeing the World Through Your Child's Eyes (2011), The Silenced Child: From Labels, Medications, and Quick-Fix Solutions to Listening, Growth, and Lifelong Resilience (2016), and The Development Science of Early Childhood: Clinical Applications of Infant Mental Health Concepts from Infancy Through Adolescence (scheduled for release in time for Valentine’s Day 2/14/2017), she writes regularly for her blog, Child in Mind, on the Boston.com website.
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    Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:08 pm
  • Discussion Outline – Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of Family and Culture in Crisis - Sep 14
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    Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:43 pm
  • Original Proposal – Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of Family and Culture in Crisis - Sep 14
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    Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:56 am
  • Participant Comments – Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of Family and Culture in Crisis - Sep 14
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    Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:10 pm
  • Reference Materials – Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of Family and Culture in Crisis - Sep 14
    .
    This section contains book reviews from the New York Times, The Washington Post and The Wall Street Journal.

    It also contains an article from the September issue of The Atlantic Magazine which deals with two books -- “White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America” by Nancy Isenberg as well as “Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of Family and Culture in Crisis” by J.D. Vance.

    Fortuitously, both “White Trash” and “Hillbilly Elegy” were proposed simultaneously as Reading Liberally topics by John Karls on 8/5/2016, with “Hillbilly Elegy” being voted at our Aug meeting as the focus for our Sep meeting.

    However, both books bear on the same imbroglio and The Atlantic article offers a thoughtful analysis of both.
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    Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:41 am
  • Discussion Outline - San Bernardino and The F.B.I. vs. Apple – Aug 10
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    Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:40 pm
  • Original Proposal – San Bernardino and The F.B.I. vs. Apple – Aug 10
    .
    Because we are a U.S. public-policy focused group, there are always crucial public-policy issues addressed in our focus book.

    That is true this month = (1) The U.S. Government’s need for information to protect American citizens from Radical Islamic Terrorism, (2) the danger that future unprincipled politicians could use the government’s information to become George Orwell’s Big Brother and impose a totalitarian dictatorship a la Orwell’s epic novel “1984,” (3) foreign governments and foreign enterprises stealing America’s corporate know-how and America’s intelligence secrets, and (4) the identity theft and mis-identification of individual citizens.

    Unfortunately, the title of our focus book (“A Quest for Privacy, Security, and Freedom in a World of Relentless Surveillance”) implies a negative answer to every need for information.

    Accordingly, John Karls has made one of his typical executive decisions to employ a title for our meeting which emphasizes in a neutral fashion the most important issue.

    NB: San Bernardino and The F.B.I. vs. Apple occurred after publication of our focus book. A NY Times article summarizing succinctly the issues involved in that imbroglio follows immediately after The Short Quiz contained in the Participants Comments which is the next section of this Bulletin Board.
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  • Participant Comments – San Bernardino and The F.B.I. vs. Apple – Aug 10
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    This section contains a succinct summary of San Bernardino and The F.B.I. vs. Apple immediately following The Short Quiz.
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  • Reference Materials – San Bernardino and The F.B.I. vs. Apple – Aug 10
    .
    Our current focus book overlaps considerably with two previous foci for which there is a plethora of information available by scrolling below to their “Participant Comments” Sections --

    (1) Our 6/12/2013 meeting focusing on “The New Digital Age” by Eric Schmidt [Executive Chairman of Google and Google’s CEO 2001-2011] and Jared Cohen [The Director of Google Ideas (a global initiatives think tank in NYC to apply technological solutions to problems faced by the developing world), an Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a member of the Advisory Board of the Director of the U.S. Government’s Counterterrorism Center].

    (2) Our 9/9/2015 meeting focusing on “The Second Machine Age: Work, Progress, and Prosperity in a Time of Brilliant Technologies” by Prof. Erik Brynjolfsson [Director of the MIT Center for Digital Business and one of the most cited scholars in information systems and economics] and Andrew McAfee [a Principal Research Scientist at the MIT Center for Digital Business and the author of Enterprise 2.0].

    Click on this section for book reviews of our current focus book and an interview of its author by Bill Moyers.
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  • Cancellation – How The Other Half Banks: Exclusion, Exploitation, and The Threat To Democracy – July 13
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    From: ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com
    To: ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com
    Bcc: The Approximately 150 Recipients of Our Weekly E-mail
    Subject: July 13th Meeting Cancelled – Attila Relenyi’s Topic Proposal Is Our Focus For August 10th
    Date: Sat, June 25, 2016
    Time: 2:14 am MDT – 3:19 am MDT (due to 100/hour limit)
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    Dear Friends,

    *****
    Cancellation Of Our July 13th Meeting

    As stated in last Saturday’s weekly e-mail (and, indeed, in the first e-mail of every monthly cycle), our July 13th meeting would be cancelled unless a minimum quorum of 6 RSVP’s had been received by 11:59 pm last evening.

    Unfortunately, only 5 RSVP’s were received -- from Ted Gurney, Elizabeth (“Tucker”) Gurney, George Kunath, June Taylor (aka Utah Owl) and Yours Truly.

    Accordingly, our July 13th meeting is cancelled.


    *****
    Maintaining Standards

    We should be proud (in a perverse sense) that this is only the third time in our 10.5-year history that we have failed to achieve a quorum.

    Each of the previous two times we had received only 5 RSVP’s, the Q arose whether an exception couldn’t be made.

    However, we have always adhered to the principle that making exceptions to standards really means having no standards.


    *****
    August 10 Topic

    The August 10 topic is Attila Relenyi’s Proposal = Dragnet Nation: A Quest for Privacy, Security, and Freedom in a World of Relentless Surveillance by Julia Angwin ($14.38 paperback + shipping or $9.99 Kindle from Amazon.com - 320 pages).

    Explanation =

    Ordinarily, each month’s participants vote on the topic for the following month.

    However, that is not possible when a meeting is cancelled.

    On both occasions that it was necessary to select a month’s topic following the cancellation of the previous month’s meeting, we followed the principle that rather than become stuck on a topic that might never be capable of mustering a quorum, we would select the Proposed Topic that had received the greatest number of views on our bulletin board, http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org.

    Ironically, of the three topics currently posted, the greatest number of views (currently 314) has been received by Thomas Sowell’s The Vision of the Anointed which was proposed by Lewis Williams, a Delta Airlines pilot.

    The reason why this is ironic is that the proposal of The Vision of the Anointed expired on June 15 when it failed to receive a vote for the 6th meeting in a row.

    Accordingly Julia Angwin’s Dragnet Nation (currently with 136 views) is the focus for our August 10 meeting.


    ********************

    We hope to see all of you on August 10th.

    Your friend,

    John K.

    PS -- To un-subscribe, please press "reply" and type "deletion requested."
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  • Original Proposal – How The Other Half Banks: Exclusion, Exploitation, and The Threat To Democracy – July 13
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    Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:35 am
  • Reference Materials – How The Other Half Banks: Exclusion, Exploitation, and The Threat To Democracy – July 13
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    Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:08 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline – 5 Easy Theses: Commonsense Solutions to America’s Greatest Economic Challenges – June 15
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    Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:01 am
  • Original Proposal – 5 Easy Theses: Commonsense Solutions to America’s Greatest Economic Challenges – June 15
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    Sat May 21, 2016 4:11 am
  • Participant Comments - 5 Easy Theses: Commonsense Solutions to America’s Greatest Economic Challenges – June 15
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    Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:43 pm
  • Reference Materials – 5 Easy Theses: Commonsense Solutions to America’s Greatest Economic Challenges – June 15
    .
    Ordinarily there are included in Reference Materials, inter alia, book reviews from the NY Times and the Washington Post (and, if our focus book is on a financial topic, The Wall Street Journal and, if it is on an international topic, one of the leading London newspapers).

    Although “5 Easy Theses” was published by Houghton Mifflin more than a month ago on 5/3/2016, there do NOT appear to be any book reviews in any newspapers (major or minor) except The Boston Globe.

    Accordingly, the review from The Boston Globe is posted in this section.

    In addition, the reader’s attention is called to all of the Editorial Review Excerpts included in the Original Proposal (which is the second section above on this Bulletin Board) from –

    Paul A. Volcker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve (1979 to 1987) under Presidents Carter and Reagan and currently chairman of the Volcker Alliance
    Edward O. Wilson, University Research Professor Emeritus, Harvard University, Twice Winner of the Pulitzer Prize for Non-Fiction
    Tom Daschle, Former U.S. Senate Majority Leader (Democrat, S. Dakota)
    David T. Ellwood, Scott M. Black Professor of Political Economy and Former Dean of the Harvard U’s Kennedy School of Government
    Clayton Yeutter, former Chairman, Republican National Committee, and former United States Secretary of Agriculture
    Norman Ornstein, author, political scientist, and resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute
    Jonathan D. Quick, MD, MPH, Management Sciences for Health, Global Health Council, and Harvard Medical School
    Michael S. Helfer, Former Vice Chairman, Citigroup, Inc.
    Lawrence S. Bacow, President of Tufts University (2001-2011)

    Our apologies for not posting the review from The Boston Globe earlier -- we were hoping for book reviews from our traditional sources. However, we now have only 8 days to go until our June 15 meeting.

    John K. -- 6/7/2016
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    Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:31 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline – Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City – May 18
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    Fri May 20, 2016 3:22 pm
  • Original Proposal – Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City – May 18
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    Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:47 pm
  • Participant Comments – Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City – May 18
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    Last post by solutions View the latest post
    Thu May 05, 2016 4:32 am
  • Reference Materials – Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City – May 18
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    Mon May 02, 2016 11:21 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline – Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right – April 20
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    Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:48 pm
  • Original Proposal – Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right – April 20
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    Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:02 am
  • Participant Comments – Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right – April 20
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    Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:48 am
  • Reference Materials – Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right – April 20
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    Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:11 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption – March 16
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    Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:48 pm
  • Original Proposal - Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption – March 16
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    Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:02 pm
  • Participant Comments – Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption – March 16
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    Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:01 pm
  • Reference Materials - Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption – March 16
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    Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:55 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline – Capitalism vs. The Climate – Feb 17
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    Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:09 pm
  • Original Proposal – Capitalism vs. The Climate – Feb 17
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    Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:07 am
  • Participant Comments – Capitalism vs. The Climate – Feb 17
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    Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:21 pm
  • Reference Materials - Capitalism vs. The Climate – Feb 17
    .
    Ordinarily there are included in Reference Materials, inter alia, book reviews from the NY Times and the Washington Post (and, if our focus book is on a financial topic, The Wall Street Journal and, if it is on an international topic, one of the leading London newspapers).

    The Washington Post does not appear to have reviewed Naomi Klein's book.

    But this section does include the NY Times book review and, since Klein is Canadian and often comments from a Canadian and/or international perspective, there is also included a book review from The Globe and Mail, Canada's largest-circulation national newspaper.
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline – The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History – Jan 13
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    Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:23 am
  • Original Proposal – The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History – Jan 13
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    Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:52 am
  • Participant Comments – The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History – Jan 13
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    Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:18 pm
  • Reference Materials – The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History – Jan 13
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    Fri Dec 25, 2015 3:27 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline – Saving Capitalism by Robert Reich – Dec 16
    .
    Dear Friends,

    Our next meeting is Wednesday evening Dec 16.

    Please join us for OUR TENTH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION from 6:30 pm > 7:00 pm (more info below) or, if you prefer, come only from 7:00 pm > 8:55 pm for our formal discussion.

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    VENUE CHANGE TO RED LION HOTEL (161 West 600 South)

    On December 16 we will meet in a guest room at the Red Lion Hotel because “there IS room at the inn” (but NOT at the library).

    The Red Lion is 1.5 blocks south & 3.5 blocks west of the library, at 161 West 600 South. [You can’t miss it, a large 13-story building on the south side of 600 South.]

    RSVP’s will receive an e-mail at 3 pm on Dec 16 containing the Room Number at the Red Lion Hotel, so you don’t have to wait in line at the desk in the lobby to ask.

    [NB: If you do stop at the front desk, the room reservation is under John Karls.]

    ********************
    TENTH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION

    December 2005 was when we selected our first book and began reading for our first meeting in January 2006.

    So in addition to our normal coffee and cookies, please join us 30 minutes early at 6:30 pm for our annual brief pre-discussion celebration with our traditional (for anniversaries) carrot cake and Champagne.

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    OUR FOCUS BOOK

    Saving Capitalism by Robert Reich ($20.23 + shipping or $13.99 Kindle from Amazon.com - 219 pages sans notes & index).

    However, our long-standing tradition is that first-time visitors who just want to give us a try are not expected to have read the materials.

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    SKYPE PARTICIPATION

    Non-Utah-residents (and residents who are out of town) are invited to participate in our meeting via Skype.

    If you would like to do so, please e-mail ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com with the subject “Request Participation Via Skype” and we will contact you to make appropriate arrangements.

    ********************
    We hope to see all of you on the 16th!!!

    Reading Liberally – Salt Lake
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  • Original Proposal – Saving Capitalism by Robert Reich – Dec 16
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    Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:56 am
  • Participant Comments – Saving Capitalism by Robert Reich – Dec 16
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    Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:27 pm
  • Reference Materials - Saving Capitalism by Robert Reich – Dec 16
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    Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:39 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - The Teacher Wars: A History of America's Most Embattled Profession - Nov 18
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    THE PROVERBIAL TEAT ON THE WHALE

    Our author, Dana Goldstein, made an amazing admission buried on p. 208 of The Teacher Wars that teacher quality accounts for only approximately 7% of the achievement and employment gaps in America, with the remaining 93% driven by out-of-school factors according to “the most celebrated value-added study ever conducted.”

    Published in the American Economic Review in 2014, the study by Professors Chetty, Friedman and Rockoff examined 20 years of data for more than one million children and their teachers from third grade to adulthood.

    This did NOT surprise the participants at our Nov 18 meeting.

    Tucker Gurney (retired U/Utah Biology Prof) recounted the year she spent working for the Red Cross on Chicago’s notorious South Side after graduating from the U/Chicago in 1962 before starting her PhD.

    The conditions she described were similar to those that John Karls often reminds us were typical of the 178 “I Have A Dream”® Progams in 51 American inner-cities in the 1990’s that provided individual tutors and mentors for an entire inner-city school class (or housing-project class cohort) as it progressed from third grade through high school graduation with a guarantee of college tuition:

    (1) 99% of “Dreamers” living in single-adult households;
    (2) 95% of total Dreamers living in single-adult households headed by a druggie; and
    (3) 75%-80% of total Dreamers living in a single-adult household headed by a druggie who hands all receipts over to the pusher so the children have to steal just in order to eat.

    It was not surprising that inner-city children knew by the age of 5 that they were NOT eligible for their dreams. And that their only realistic career objectives were pusher or pimp, or girl friend of a pusher or pimp graduating to whore.

    What was surprising is that the IHAD Programs were able to achieve 90% of their Dreamers graduating from high school and going to college -- DESPITE THE FACT that the classes just ahead and just behind the Dreamer class typically had SINGLE-DIGIT high-school graduation rates.

    Although The Teacher Wars provided a wealth of information about the Teat On The Whale (teacher effectiveness), it reminded us of how the IHAD Program had showed America The Promised Land by treating inner-city education as a SOCIOLOGY problem rather than an EDUCATION problem.

    And how Bill and Melinda Gates and their foundation had caused America to turn away from The Promised Land and, for a decade, to worship the False Idol of breaking up inner-city schools into smaller units.

    And after admitting the failure of that approach, causing America to Wander In The Wilderness for another decade worshipping the False Idol of School Choice which was evaluated in a national study in 2009 conducted by Stanford University and FINANCED BY THE PRO-CHARTER WALTON FAMILY FOUNDATION AND THE MICHAEL AND SUSAN DELL FOUNDATION of 2,403 charter schools (about half of all charter schools and 70% of all charter-school students) -- which found that 37% of the charter schools had learning gains that were SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW those of local public schools, 46% had gains that were no different, and ONLY 17 PER CENT had growth that was significantly better (this despite “cherry picking” the best applicants and expelling poor-performing students!!!).

    It is also a shame that during 2008-2011, the top 21 National and California politicians and 43 news-media superstars refused to permit $84 billion of private funding to be used to provide IHAD or IHAD-style programs for 10 million inner-city children (details are available in the third & fourth sections of this Bulletin Board).

    But after our unsuccessful attempt to enlist the help of Pope Francis (please see our 6/17/2015 e-mail campaign described in the first section of this Bulletin Board), we did NOT have any other ideas at our Nov 18 meeting for what could be done.
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  • Original Proposal - The Teacher Wars: A History of America's Most Embattled Profession - Nov 18
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  • Participant Comments - The Teacher Wars: A History of America's Most Embattled Profession - Nov 18
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  • Reference Materials - The Teacher Wars: A History of America's Most Embattled Profession - Nov 18
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Phishing for Phools: The Economics of Manipulation and Deception by George Akerlof and Robert Shiller – Oct 14
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  • Original Proposal - Phishing for Phools: The Economics of Manipulation and Deception by George Akerlof and Robert Shiller – Oct 14
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    OUR FOCUS BOOK (proposed by June Taylor, U/Utah’s Radiology Research Prof & Long-Time Reading Liberally Regular) --

    Our focus will be Phishing for Phools: The Economics of Manipulation and Deception by two Nobel-Prize Economists, George A. Akerlof and Robert J. Shiller (official release date 9/22/2015 but available immediately from Amazon.com for 17.94 + shipping or $14.72 Kindle -- 288 pages).

    Ever since Adam Smith, the central teaching of economics has been that free markets provide us with material well-being, as if by an invisible hand. In Phishing for Phools, Nobel Prize-winning economists George Akerlof and Robert Shiller deliver a fundamental challenge to this insight, arguing that markets harm as well as help us. As long as there is profit to be made, sellers will systematically exploit our psychological weaknesses and our ignorance through manipulation and deception. Rather than being essentially benign and always creating the greater good, markets are inherently filled with tricks and traps and will "phish" us as "phools."

    Phishing for Phools therefore strikes a radically new direction in economics, based on the intuitive idea that markets both give and take away. Akerlof and Shiller bring this idea to life through dozens of stories that show how phishing affects everyone, in almost every walk of life. We spend our money up to the limit, and then worry about how to pay the next month's bills. The financial system soars, then crashes. We are attracted, more than we know, by advertising. Our political system is distorted by money. We pay too much for gym memberships, cars, houses, and credit cards. Drug companies ingeniously market pharmaceuticals that do us little good, and sometimes are downright dangerous.

    Phishing for Phools explores the central role of manipulation and deception in fascinating detail in each of these areas and many more. It thereby explains a paradox: why, at a time when we are better off than ever before in history, all too many of us are leading lives of quiet desperation. At the same time, the book tells stories of individuals who have stood against economic trickery--and how it can be reduced through greater knowledge, reform, and regulation.

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    OUR AUTHORS

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    Prof. George A. Akerlof (BA Yale 1962, PhD MIT 1966) won the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2001 for the “analyses of markets with asymmetric information.” He taught economics at U/Cal-Berkeley 1966-2010. At age 70 in 2010, he retired from U/Cal-Berkeley to follow his wife to Washington DC where he became The University Professor at the McCourt School of Public Policy at Georgetown University.

    His wife is Janet Yellen, Chairman of the Federal Reserve. They have an adult son who is also an Economics Professor.

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    Prof. Robert J. Shiller (BA U/Mich 1967, PhD MIT 1972) won the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2013 for his “empirical analysis of asset prices.” He is the Sterling Professor of Economics at Yale U where he also teaches at Yale Law School and at Yale’s School of Management.

    Among his many publications, Prof. Shiller teamed up with Prof. Akerlof in 2009 to co-author the popular book -- Animal Spirits: How Human Psychology Drives The Economy, And Why It Matters For Global Capitalism.
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  • Participant Comments - Phishing for Phools: The Economics of Manipulation and Deception by George Akerlof and Robert Shiller – Oct 14
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    1. Has Donald Trump proposed another economic meltdown equal to 2008???

    2. Does Donald Trump really think there is $2.5 TRillion (yes, that’s TRillion with 12 zeros) stuffed in mattresses in the tax-haven subsidiaries of the U.S.-based Multi-National Companies (MNC’s)???

    3. Does Donald Trump even realize that he is proposing that the CHUMP American Companies that did NOT export American jobs would be forced to reduce their payrolls and capital expenditures by $2.5 TRillion in order to repay their loans from the tax-haven subsidiaries of the U.S.-based MNC’s that DID export American jobs???

    4. In other words --

    Is Donald Trump “Phishing” for the “Phools” he believes American voters to be???

    OR

    Is Donald Trump himself a “Phish” who has been “Phooled” by the slick lobbyists of the U.S.-based MNC’s that have exported American jobs???

    5. Have we already seen this movie???

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    Hint = Please see --

    (A) the seventh posting under the first section of http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org dated 11/14/2012 and entitled “$5 Trillion Reductions in American Payroll > Meltdowns” and

    (B) the third posting under that same first section of http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org dated 2/12/2014 and entitled “Renewing 1968 Executive Order 11387 To Halt American Job Exports.”

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    6. Would it be better to elect Carly Fiorina who at least understands how U.S.-based MNC’s have exported American jobs and what the ramifications of that are???

    7. And would it be better to elect Ben Carson who appears to have the common sense not to listen to lobbyists for U.S.-based MNC’s which have exported American jobs -- but instead might be able to perform as a brilliant surgeon who carefully deals with the problems created by the loans to the CHUMP American companies that did NOT export American jobs from the tax-haven subs of the U.S.-based MNC’s that did???
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  • Reference Materials - Phishing for Phools: The Economics of Manipulation and Deception by George Akerlof and Robert Shiller – Oct 14
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    In this section we usually post, inter alia, several book reviews of our focus book.

    Since Phishing for Phools is not scheduled for official release until 9/22/2015 (although it is available now as of 9/12/2015 from Amazon.com), there appear to be only two book reviews -- (1) from the Wall Street Journal, and (2) from Live Mint, the second-largest business newpaper in India.

    More book reviews and other information will be posted here when they become available.
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - The Impending Adverse Impact Of New Technology on Employment and Income Inequality – Sep 9th
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  • Original Proposal - The Impending Adverse Impact Of New Technology on Employment and Income Inequality – Sep 9th
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    Our focus will be The Second Machine Age: Work, Progress, and Prosperity in a Time of Brilliant Technologies by Erik Brynjolfsson and Andrew McAfee ($16.03 + shipping or $12.99 Kindle from Amazon.com -- 320 pages).

    Erik Brynjolfsson is the director of the MIT Center for Digital Business and one of the most cited scholars in information systems and economics. Andrew McAfee is a principal research scientist at the MIT Center for Digital Business and the author of Enterprise 2.0.

    Excerpts from the Washington Post book review of The Second Machine Age --

    “Now come two professors from MIT with a more optimistic and intriguing hypothesis -- namely, that the global economy is on the cusp of a dramatic growth spurt driven by smart machines that finally take full advantage of advances in computer processing, artificial intelligence, networked communication and the digitization of just about everything.

    “The big winners in this new era will be consumers, who will be able to buy a wider range of higher-quality goods and services at lower prices. The other winners will be those who create and finance the new machines or figure out how best to use them to gain competitive advantage. Great wealth will be created in the process.

    “In the first machine age -- the age of Kodak (which employed 145,000 people) -- productivity, employment and median income all rose in tandem. In the second, the growth in productivity has essentially been decoupled from jobs and income. And this divergence has its roots not in labor law or tax codes, Brynjolfsson and McAfee argue, but in the very nature of the digital economy, in which a set of goods and services can be provided to an infinite number of additional customers, all at the same time, at a cost that is often close to zero.”
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  • Participant Comments - The Impending Adverse Impact Of New Technology on Employment and Income Inequality – Sep 9th
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    Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:19 am
  • Reference Materials - The Impending Adverse Impact Of New Technology on Employment and Income Inequality – Sep 9th
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    Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:03 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline – Joan Walsh’s “What’s the Matter with White People?” – Aug 12
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  • Original Proposal – Joan Walsh’s “What’s the Matter with White People?” – Aug 12
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  • Participant Comments – Joan Walsh’s “What’s the Matter with White People?” – Aug 12
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  • Reference Materials – Joan Walsh’s “What’s the Matter with White People?” – Aug 12
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    Ordinarily, we post in this section book reviews from the NY Times and the Washington Post. [In addition, we usually post book reviews from the Wall Street Journal if the month’s book focuses on a financial issue and several British newspapers if the focus is on an international issue.]

    However, it appears that neither the New York Times nor the Washington Post reviewed “What’s the Matter with White People?”

    Accordingly, there is posted a review from the San Francisco Chronicle, the only newspaper in the same league as the NYT or the WP that appears to have reviewed “What’s the Matter with White People?”

    In addition, there is posted a Joan Walsh OpEd article in the NY Times regarding a speech by President Obama on gun control.

    Finally, the initial set of postings includes a book review from The New Republic, an excerpt from which was included in Utah Owl’s original proposal.
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline – The Lonely War: One Woman’s Account of the Struggle for Modern Iran – July 15
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    Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:02 am
  • Original Proposal – The Lonely War: One Woman’s Account of the Struggle for Modern Iran – July 15
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    Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:02 am
  • Participant Comments – The Lonely War: One Woman’s Account of the Struggle for Modern Iran – July 15
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    Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:15 pm
  • Reference Materials – The Lonely War: One Woman’s Account of the Struggle for Modern Iran – July 15
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    Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:57 am
  • CALL TO ACTION – "SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION" E-MAIL CAMPAIGN – POPE FRANCIS AND 23% OF U.S. CHILDREN IN POVERTY
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    RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING POPE FRANCIS DURING HIS IMPENDING FIRST VISIT TO THE U.S. TO CALL UPON AMERICAN CHRISTIANS IN GENERAL AND ROMAN CATHOLICS IN PARTICULAR TO LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS AS THEMSELVES IN THE PERSON OF THE 23% OF U.S. CHILDREN WHO UNICEF CONFIRMS LIVE IN POVERTY
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    Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:02 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - The Hoax of the School-Privatization Movement - June 17
    SUB-TEXT -- WHY OUR POLITICIANS AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE TRYING TO DISTRACT US WITH INCIDENTS OF ALLEGED POLICE BRUTALITY RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON WHAT REALLY AILS OUR INNER CITIES!!!
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  • Original Proposal - The Hoax of the School-Privatization Movement - June 17
    SUB-TEXT -- WHY OUR POLITICIANS AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE TRYING TO DISTRACT US WITH INCIDENTS OF ALLEGED POLICE BRUTALITY RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON WHAT REALLY AILS OUR INNER CITIES!!!
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  • Participant Comments - The Hoax of the School-Privatization Movement - June 17……………………………………… AMERICA’S APARTHEID “JUSTICE” SYSTEM -- BALTIMORE, AMERICAN INNER-CITIES AND TOM BRADY
    SUB-TEXT -- WHY OUR POLITICIANS AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE TRYING TO DISTRACT US WITH INCIDENTS OF ALLEGED POLICE BRUTALITY RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON WHAT REALLY AILS OUR INNER CITIES!!!

    In addition to our normal Participant Comments including our Short Quizzes and Suggested Answers Thereto, click here for John Karls’ 5/10/2015 posting entitled AMERICA’S APARTHEID “JUSTICE” SYSTEM -- BALTIMORE, AMERICAN INNER-CITIES AND TOM BRADY which occupied the first three sections of the face of this bulletin board until 5/14/2015.
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  • Reference Materials - The Hoax of the School-Privatization Movement - June 17
    SUB-TEXT -- WHY OUR POLITICIANS AND MAINSTREAM MEDIA ARE TRYING TO DISTRACT US WITH INCIDENTS OF ALLEGED POLICE BRUTALITY RATHER THAN FOCUSING ON WHAT REALLY AILS OUR INNER CITIES!!!

    The NY Times Book Review posted in this section was authored by Jonathan Kozol.

    Jonathan Kozol’s award-winning books over the last half century have tried to convince America that it has created a permanent “untouchable” under-caste as a result of its racism – (1) The Shame of the Nation: The Restoration of Apartheid Schooling in America (2005); (2) Ordinary Resurrections: Children in the Years of Hope (2001); (3) Amazing Grace: The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation (1995); (4) Savage Inequalities: Children in America’s Schools (1991); (5) Rachel and Her Children (1988); (6) Illiterate America (1985); (7) The Night is Dark and I Am Far From Home: Political Indictment of US Public Schools (1975); (8) Death at an Early Age (1967).

    In Honor of Jonathan Kozol was written by John Karls “Inner-City Holocaust and America’s Apartheid ‘Justice’ System” which is described at length in the third and fourth sections of this bulletin board.

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    Please also see --

    the materials for our 9/12/2012 meeting which focused on Diane Ravitch’s earlier book “The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education”

    and

    the materials for our 1/13/2010, 5/16/2009, and 1/22/2009 meetings regarding inner-city education.
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Why Foreign-Government Corruption Threatens Global Security – May 13
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    Fri May 08, 2015 8:59 pm
  • Original Proposal - Why Foreign-Government Corruption Threatens Global Security – May 13
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    Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:18 am
  • Participant Comments - Why Foreign-Government Corruption Threatens Global Security – May 13
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  • Reference Materials - Why Foreign-Government Corruption Threatens Global Security – May 13
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    Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:50 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Corruption in America - April 8
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  • Original Proposal - Corruption in America – April 8
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    Our next meeting is Wednesday evening, April 8th, at the Salt Lake Public Library (210 East 400 South) in Conference Room D -- ACROSS THE HALL FROM OUR REGULAR CONFERENCE ROOM C.

    Our focus will be Corruption in America: From Benjamin Franklin’s Snuff Box to Citizens United by Prof. Zephyr Teachout (Harvard Univ Press 9/29/2014 – 305 pages sans notes and index) available from Amazon.com for $22.19 + shipping for hardcover or $9.88 Kindle -- proposed by Thomas and Denise Chancellor.

    When French King Louis XVI presented Benjamin Franklin with a snuff box encrusted with diamonds and inset with the King’s portrait, the gift troubled Americans because it threatened to “corrupt” Franklin by clouding his judgment or altering his attitude toward the French in subtle psychological ways. This broad understanding of political corruption -- rooted in ideals of civic virtue -- was a driving force at the Constitutional Convention. For two centuries the framers’ ideas about corruption flourished in the courts, even in the absence of clear rules governing voters, civil officers, and elected officials. Should a law that was passed by a state legislature be overturned because half of its members were bribed? What kinds of lobbying activity were corrupt, and what kinds were legal? When does an implicit promise count as bribery? In the 1970s the U.S. Supreme Court began to narrow the definition of corruption, and the meaning has since changed dramatically. No case makes that clearer than Citizens United.

    Zephyr Teachout is an Associate Professor at Fordham U School of Law. When, in 2014, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was running for re-election, Prof. Teachout challenged him in the Democratic Primary and received 33.47% of the vote. Prof. Teachout is a media expert who served as the Director of Internet Organizing for the 2004 Howard Dean presidential campaign. In 2009, she co-founded A New Way Forward, an organization built to break up the power of big banks, and became the first national director of the Sunlight Foundation, a nonpartisan nonprofit organization that had been founded in 2006 with a goal of increasing transparency and accountability in the United States Congress, the executive branch, and in state and local governments.
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Leon Panetta’s Worthy Fights and President Obama’s Military Force Authorization - March 11
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  • Original Proposal - Leon Panetta’s Worthy Fights and President Obama’s Military Force Authorization - March 11
    Our next meeting is Wednesday evening, March 11, at the Salt Lake Public Library (210 East 400 South) in Conference Room C.

    Our focus will be Worthy Fights: A Memoir of Leadership in War and Peace by Leon Panetta [Penguin Press 10/7/2014 – 467 pages sans notes & index – available from your local library or for $13.29 + $3.99 shipping through Amazon.com – Amazon’s price is $26.25 + shipping but below Amazon’s price click on “71 New from $13.29” and order from chs625].

    Leon Panetta was (1) a Democratic Congressman from California 1977-1993 (House Budget Committee Chair 1989-1993); (2) President Clinton’s Director of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) 1993-1994; (3) President Clinton’s Chief of Staff 1994-1997; (4) President Obama’s CIA Director 2/13/2009- 6/30/2011; and (5) President Obama’s Secretary of Defense 7/1/2011-2/27/2013.

    Since “60 Minutes” on 9/21/2014, “Worthy Fights” has created a veritable firestorm in the national media -- and in the form of “push back” from Vice President Biden in stark contrast to standard Obama Administration reaction to books by former Administration Officials that the Obama Administration “never does book reviews”!!!

    The two explosive issues discussed by Leon Panetta in “Worthy Fights” and on “60 Minutes” are his contention that The Islamic State (aka ISIS aka ISIL formerly AQI or Al Qaeda in Iraq) is the direct result of (1) President Obama’s refusal to accept his advice and the advice of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, CIA Director David Patraeus and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs General Martin Dempsey to arm the Syrian moderate rebels 3 years earlier, and (2) President Obama’s refusal to push for a residual force of 10,000 American military personnel in Iraq in 2011 over the objections of himself, Hillary Clinton, David Patraeus and Martin Dempsey.

    The reason for the media firestorm???

    As both an Obama loyalist AND a Clinton loyalist, Worthy Fights is viewed by the media as providing cover for Hillary for what might be viewed as two pivotal foreign-policy disasters when she was Secretary of State.

    So it is ironic that only 32 minutes after President Obama’s Request to Congress for an Authorization for Use of Military Force Against ISIL was posted on http://www.WhiteHouse.com, the attendees of our 2/11/2015 meeting voted to focus on Worthy Fights for our 3/11/2015 meeting. [And, no, we weren’t aware at the time of the posting but we knew the AUMF was imminent.]
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  • Participant Comments - Leon Panetta’s Worthy Fights and President Obama’s Military Force Authorization - March 11
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  • Reference Materials - Leon Panetta’s Worthy Fights and President Obama’s Military Force Authorization - March 11
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Losing Our Way: An Intimate Portraith of a Troubled America - Feb 11
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  • Original Proposal - Losing Our Way: An Intimate Portrait of a Troubled America - Feb 11
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  • Participant Comments - Losing Our Way: An Intimate Portrait of a Troubled America – Feb 11
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  • Reference Materials - Losing Our Way: An Intimate Portrait of a Troubled America – Feb 11
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Hillary Distancing Herself From Pres. Obama Re The Islamic State - For Sep 3
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    After 8.5 years, John Karls is taking a sabbatical through year end from serving as the facilitator for our group, as described in greater detail in the sixth and seventh sections below.

    In the meantime, we are having occasional discussions of political topics without elaborate preparations and following ad hoc arrangements.
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  • Original Proposal - Hillary Distancing Herself From Pres. Obama Re The Islamic State - For Sep 3
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    After 8.5 years, John Karls is taking a sabbatical through year end from serving as the facilitator for our group, as described in greater detail in the fifth and sixth sections below.

    In the meantime, we are having occasional discussions of political topics without elaborate preparations and following ad hoc arrangements.
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  • Participant Comments - Hillary Distancing Herself From Pres. Obama Re The Islamic State - For Sep 3
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    After 8.5 years, John Karls is taking a sabbatical through year end from serving as the facilitator for our group, as described in greater detail in the fourth and fifth sections below.

    In the meantime, we are having occasional discussions of political topics without elaborate preparations and following ad hoc arrangements.
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  • Reference Materials - Hillary Distancing Herself From Pres. Obama Re The Islamic State - For Sep 3
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    Please click here for an 8/14/2014 report of French Socialist President François Hollande's direct arms shipments to the Iraqi Kurds and British Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron's 8/17/2014 OpEd in the London Telegraph and the reaction of The Guardian, The Daily Mail and the Telegraph itself.

    The Atlantic interview of Hillary Clinton is appended to “Original Ad Hoc Meeting Proposal” which is posted in the second-preceding section of this bulletin board entitled “Original Proposal.”

    Appended to “Final Proposal + Short Quiz” which is posted in the second-preceding section of this bulletin board entitled “Original Proposal” are --

    (1) Pope Francis’ 8/9/2014 letter to the U.N. Secretary General and the 8/13/2014 statements of the Vatican’s Ambassador to the U.N. declaring that fighting The Islamic State comports with the Just War Doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church; and

    (2) Vice President Biden’s 6/4/2007 OpEd (when he was still Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee) entitled “CSI: Nukes” responding to Osama bin Laden’s fatwa to nuke 10 million Americans (which can NOT be revoked now that ObL is dead) in which Biden proposed that since fissile material has “DNA” that proves the country of origin, the U.S. should announce a policy of “nuclear annihilation” against any country whose fissile materials are used by terrorists in a nuclear attack on the U.S.
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  • Original Proposal - American Exceptionalism: Fact or Fiction??? - Aug 6th
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    After 8.5 years, John Karls is taking a sabbatical through year end from serving as the facilitator of our group, as described in greater detail in the second and third sections below.

    In the meantime, we are having occasional discussions of political topics without elaborate preparations and following ad hoc arrangements.

    The original proposal of discussing Dinesh D’Souza’s movie “America” and the TV interviews of Prof. William Ayers, who was the Co-Founder in the 1960’s of the Anti-Vietnam-War Weather Underground, is posted in this section.
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  • Participant Comments - American Exceptionalism: Fact or Fiction??? - Aug 6th
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    Since we are following ad hoc procedures for the Aug 6th meeting, this is the only other traditional bulletin-board section being provided.
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  • MEETING CANCELLATION + SABBATICAL
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    Subject: Meeting Cancellation + Sabbatical
    From: ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com
    Date: Sat, April 19, 2014 3:39 am - 4:52 am MDT
    To: ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com
    Bcc: The Approximately 150 Recipients Of Our Weekly E-mail
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    Dear Friends,

    Similarly to the first weekly e-mail in each monthly cycle since last June, last week’s e-mail began with the following section concerning our May meeting -


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    RSVP's REQUESTED BY NEXT FRIDAY

    In accordance with our quorum-policy revision of 6/12/2013, instead of waiting until the last week before each monthly meeting to request RSVP's and canceling if we do not have our minimum quorum of six, RSVP's are requested in our first-of-the-monthly-cycle weekly e-mail.

    Those who have RSVP’d will be informed immediately when we reach six so they can proceed to read the materials with assurance a discussion will take place.

    If there are not six RSVP's by 11:59 pm next Friday, then next week's weekly e-mail will announce that the 5/7/2014 meeting is cancelled.

    [Editorial Note: The meeting had been scheduled for 5/7/2014 because Yours Truly has to be back in NYC on 5/14/2014.]

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    We did not achieve our quorum. Accordingly, the meeting is cancelled.


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    YOURS TRULY’S SABBATICAL & THE 6/11/2014 MEETING

    A policy on the only two previous occasions in our 8.5-year history that we failed to achieve a quorum (May 2010 and June 2013) addressed the selection of the topic for the next-subsequent meeting which normally would have been voted upon at the now-cancelled meeting.

    Rather than become stuck permanently on a topic that might never be capable of mustering a quorum, our policy both times was to proceed to the topic posted under “Possible Topics” on http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org that had received the greatest number of “views” from website users.

    That topic is “Defending Hillary’s Putin Attack & Bill’s Ukraine Guarantee” which has received 724 views at this point -- more than 10 times the number of any other proposal.

    [“Defending Hillary” also received the second-highest number of votes at our April meeting when attendees voted for the topic of the May meeting.]

    Accordingly, “Defending Hillary” will be the topic of the 6/11/2014 meeting -- if it takes place.

    The reason for that qualification (“if it takes place”) is that Yours Truly will be taking a Sabbatical until after the 2014 mid-term elections to complete “Inner-City Holocaust and America’s ‘Apartheid’ Justice System (In Honor of Jonathan Kozol and In Memory of John Howard Griffin).”

    However, if any of our regular attendees would like to facilitate “Defending Hillary” on 6/11/2014 for which we still have a conference-room reservation at the Salt Lake Public Library, or on the second Wednesday of any month in

    [Continued on the face of the next section due to the software limitation on the size of the text on the face of each section.]
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  • MEETING CANCELLATION + SABBATICAL (Continued)
    the second half of 2014, I would be delighted to send out to the recipients of this newsletter any announcement(s) that are prepared by such a facilitator.

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    During the past 36 months, Yours Truly has received many inquiries regarding when “Inner-City Holocaust and America’s ‘Apartheid’ Justice System (In Honor of Jonathan Kozol and In Memory of John Howard Griffin)” will be publicly available -- a book that is described at length in the second and third sections of http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org.

    A partial answer was provided in a closing “footnote” to my Original Proposal for our 9/12/2012 meeting which was entitled “Gates Foundation Crimes Against US Education Policy” and which proposed focusing on “The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education” by Diane Ravitch -- N.Y.U.’s Research Professor of Education and a historian of education; a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution; and a former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Education.

    The closing footnote said --

    “I have been asked many times since last Fall [the Fall of 2011] why ‘Inner-City Holocaust’ has not been published yet even though, in the heat of battle, I had said in the many letters to the 21 National and California governmental officials that their lack of support for their 10-million inner-city-children constituents should be an issue in their next election campaigns. Shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court refused last October [10/4/2011] to hear our final appeal, I decided to wait until after the November 2012 elections because the failure of the 43 news-media superstars and failure of the 21 governmental officials is a long-term challenge. And the long-term solution of an electronically-self-published book to be used for ethics classes in law schools and divinity schools, and in undergraduate courses in political science, ethics/philosophy, sociology, etc., does not need to interfere with the re-election chances of officials whose opponents are no more likely to lead us to The Promised Land.”

    As the 2012 elections passed, it seemed equally prudent to wait until after the 2014 mid-term elections. [Though I am often amused over the thought that “Inner-City Holocaust and America’s ‘Apartheid’ Justice System” could have any impact on electoral politics, particularly since none of the 21 governmental officials appears from her/his lack of action to have thought so.]

    Accordingly, it strikes me that the time is fast approaching (post-2014 elections) to attempt to begin the “tilting with windmills” in fighting for the hearts and minds of America’s next generation.

    I hope to see all of you at our January 2015 meeting!!!


    Your friend,

    John K.

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  • Original Proposal - The Hoax of the School-Privatization Movement - May 7th
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    [Our May meeting will be on the 7th rather than the 14th because John Karls has to be back in NYC on the 14th.]
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  • Do-It-Yourself-Six-Degrees-Of-Separation-Email-Campaign -- Nuclear Fusion and 50 More Years Wandering in the Wilderness Shunning the Promised Land
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline -- NUCLEAR FUSION AND 50 MORE YEARS WANDERING IN THE WILDERNESS SHUNNING THE PROMISED LAND -- Apr 9th
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  • Original Proposal -- Nuclear Fusion and 50 More Years Wandering in the Wilderness Shunning the Promised Land -- April 9th
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    Many of you will recall our Six-Degrees-Of-Separation E-mail Campaigns following our Feb 2014 and Oct 2012 meetings in which stated, inter alia, that (1) LFTR’s (Liquid Floride Thorium Reactors) require minimal containment chambers because meltdowns are physically impossible since LFTR’s operate near atmospheric pressure, (2) LFTR’s do not require elaborate cooling systems because they operate well below the boiling point of molten salt and can be passively cooled, (3) thorium has such an incredibly-high “burn-up” that there is virtually no long-lived radioactive waste, and (4) thorium is so stable that it is impossible to make a nuclear weapon from thorium which is why the U.S. turned to uranium and plutonium instead of thorium.

    And implored both President Obama and the DOE Secretary to make Thorium FISSION a reality as soon as possible.

    Accordingly, it is shocking and appalling (at least at first blush) to see that the 3/3/2014 issue of The New Yorker is putting its weight behind a nuclear fusion project which has already consumed zillions of dollars over MORE THAN 50 YEARS and is projected to require AT LEAST ANOTHER 10 YEARS (IF EVER) to completion!!!

    And requires magnets weighing 2 MILLION POUNDS to suspend in a vacuum the nuclear-fusion material because there are no substances on earth capable of containing it!!!

    [No mention in The New Yorker article about what happens if the electric current powering the magnets fails -- for example whether there is an explosion equivalent to the detonation of a nuclear bomb.]

    It appears obvious from reading between the lines of The New Yorker article that nuclear fusion suffers from the same problem as uranium-fission reactors = they are both, in essence, trying to control a nuclear/thermonuclear bomb explosion in order to extract energy -- in contrast to thorium which, as mentioned in our e-mail campaigns, is incapable of exploding.

    And even if the nuclear-fusion technology after another decade proves feasible, The New Yorker article ignores the horrendous expense of all of the massive equipment comprising each fusion power plant. And how incredibly expensive will be the power-transmission lines for distributing the electricity.

    In contrast to the thorium reactors which need no containment chambers. And can be so small (and cheap) that one is located in every basement, making obsolete the incredible expense of power-transmission lines.

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    Cal Burgart (PhD in Nuclear Engineering from the US National Nuclear-Research Laboratory at Oak Ridge TN), who served as our nuclear-engineering expert for our 10/10/2012 meeting on Thorium Nuclear Reactors and our 4/13/2011 meeting on the Japanese nuclear disaster at Fukushima Daiichi, will participate in our 4/9/2014 meeting.

    Please help us gather and evaluate this and more information about a project that is highly controversial, even though The New Yorker does not seem to think so.

    And help us decide whether to send strong rebukes to the Editor of the New Yorker and to U.S. Senator Diane Feinstein who, per the article, is responsible for wasting the U.S. government’s funds on this project.
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  • Participant Comments -- Nuclear Fusion and 50 More Years Wandering in the Wilderness Shunning the Promised Land -- April 9th
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  • Reference Materials -- Nuclear Fusion and 50 More Years Wandering in the Wilderness Shunning the Promised Land -- April 9th
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Angry White Men: American Masculinity at the End of an Era – March 12th
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  • Original Proposal - Angry White Men: American Masculinity at the End of an Era – March 12th
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  • CALL TO ACTION – "SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION" E-MAIL CAMPAIGN TO PRESIDENT OBAMA – RENEWING 1968 EXECUTIVE ORDER 11387 TO HALT THE EXPORT OF AMERICAN JOBS
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  • Discussion Outline – 12 Years A Slave, the 1853 autobiography of a free black man who was kidnapped in Washington DC in 1841 and sold into slavery, which became a famous part of the Abolitionist Movement – Feb 12th
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  • Participant Comments – 12 Years A Slave, the 1853 autobiography of a free black man who was kidnapped in Washington DC in 1841 and sold into slavery, which became a famous part of the Abolitionist Movement – Feb 12th
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  • Original Proposal – 12 Years A Slave, the 1853 autobiography of a free black man who was kidnapped in Washington DC in 1841 and sold into slavery, which became a famous part of the Abolitionist Movement – Feb 12th
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    RSVP’s REQUESTED FOR FEB 12TH

    Ellen Birrell and her husband, Jim Hutchins, were stalwarts of Reading Liberally during its first 2-3 years of existence, whereupon they "pulled up stakes" the end of 2008 to sail the world on their yacht, Boldly Go.

    They are in town for other matters but will attend our Feb 12th meeting.

    Since Ellen and Jim still have so many friends in the area (for example, Ellen was on the Board of the Salt Lake County Democrats), it is respectfully requested that anyone planning to come on Feb 12th RSVP so we know how many “fatted calves” to kill for our post-meeting celebration of Ellen and Jim joining us (traditional fruit pizza and the first round of drinks at Cannella’s on John Karls), and whether to request the library to provide a meeting room for more than 20.

    Simply e-mail ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com with "I will attend Feb 12th (with guest(s) John Doe (and Jane Roe))."

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    12 YEARS A SLAVE

    The movie version of 12 Years A Slave won the 2014 Golden Globe for Best Picture and on Jan 16, it received 9 Academy Award Nominations including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Leading Actor, Best Supporting Actor and Best Supporting Actress.

    The movie is based on the autobiography of/by Solomon Northrup which is available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $6.99 + shipping - 152 pages.

    "12 Years A Slave" is the 1853 autobiography of a free black man who had been both a husband and father until he was kidnapped in Washington DC in 1841 and sold into slavery.

    The autobiography became famous immediately and was a center-piece of the Abolitionist Movement leading to the Civil War.

    It is important in painting a realistic picture of slavery.

    NOT the "Gone With The Wind" happy servants of friendly masters!!!

    BUT RATHER the treatment of slaves as work animals who could be (and frequently were) raped or tortured or killed at will and whose families were routinely ripped apart as children and spouses were sold to other slave masters on distant plantations!!!

    Further information, including a PBS Newshour interview of John Ridley, the script-writer for the movie, are contained in the Original Proposal which is posted in this section.
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  • Reference Materials – 12 Years A Slave, the 1853 autobiography of a free black man who was kidnapped in Washington DC in 1841 and sold into slavery, which became a famous part of the Abolitionist Movement – Feb 12th
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    Ordinarily, we include in each month’s Reference Materials section, book reviews (if they exist) from the NY Times and Washington Post -- and the British press for books with international implications and The Wall Street Journal for books with financial implications.

    This situation is unique because the autobiography is 160 years old and, although it was the centerpiece of the Abolitionist Movement for the 7 years leading to the American Civil War, it had fallen into obscurity for more than a century until it became the focus of the movie which won the 2014 Golden Globe for Best Picture and has been nominated for 9 Academy Awards including Best Picture.

    There do not appear to any book reviews from 160 years ago.

    Posted in this section are 4 hybrid reviews -- hybrid in the sense that they focus on the book as well as the movie. In order of relative focus on the book (vs. the movie), they are from:

    The London Guardian
    The London Telegraph
    The London Mail
    The New Yorker

    Please also see the Original Proposal section above for: (1) a PBS Newshour interview of John Ridley, the author of the movie’s screenplay, and (2) an excerpt from a Wikipedia article summarizing the reaction of movie critics.
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  • Discussion Outline - Magnificent Delusions: Pakistan, the U.S., and An Epic History of Misunderstanding – Jan 8th
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    A brief, final note on Magnificent Delusions in case we ever have occasion to discuss this or any related topics again.

    The attendees of our 1/8/2014 meeting were shocked and appalled over how dysfunctional American foreign policy toward Pakistan has been --

    (1) Not just the basic non sequitur of why we would provide arms to Pakistan to, in our view, oppose the Soviet Union during The Cold War when over the years we saw virtually all such arms deployed immediately to the Border With India (which is the basic theme of Grand Delusions);

    (2) And not just America’s CREATION AND FINANCING OF AL QAEDA CORE AND THE TALIBAN to combat the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan 1979-1989 which Grand Delusions notes that America INCORRECTLY likes to remember as “Charlie Wilson’s War” per the famous Hollywood movie starring Tom Hanks as Charlie Wilson -- INCORRECTLY per Grand Delusions because although it is true that AMERICA CREATED AND FINANCED AL QAEDA CORE AND THE TALIBAN, it did so through the Pakistani military government headed by General Mohammad Zia-ul-Haq so that Al Qaeda Core and The Taliban have always been puppets of Pakistan’s ISI-military complex;

    (3) And not just America’s constantly certifying that Pakistan did NOT have atomic weapons from 1985 onwards so that under American law we could continue to provide American military aid to Pakistan (our “fig leaf” was that Pakistan did not test the atomic weapons until 1998 so we could pretend they did not exist);

    (4) And not just how the impact of President Bill Clinton’s wonderful 3/25/2000 speech at the Islamabad Airport that he insisted be televised live all over Pakistan as his price for helping Pakistan extricate itself from the FOURTH India-Pakistan War was immediately eradicated by the Pakistani media WHICH WAS/IS TIGHTLY CONTROLLED BY PAKISTAN’S ISI-MILITARY COMPLEX (noting that as we have studied many times in the past, democracy can NOT exist without a free press);

    (5) But how badly the War on Terror was mis-managed from the outset by Secretary of State Colin Powell!!! We all remember how, immediately after 9/11, Colin Powell organized the War on Terror by famously informing each of the world’s governments that if they weren’t “for us” then they were “against us”!!! But what never appeared in the headlines was the fact that in Pakistan’s case, we were asking the ISI-military complex to throw their Al Qaeda Core and Taliban puppets “under the bus” AND WE KNEW THAT’S WHAT WE WERE ASKING!!! So when Colin Powell personally phoned the head of the Pakistani government -- General Pervez Musharraf -- (per Musharraf’s Memoires as quoted extensively in Grand Delusions at p. 311) to tell him that he “should be prepared to be bombed back into the Stone Age if he did not comply with American demands” the first reaction of Musharraf was to “war-game the United States as an adversary” which caused him to adopt, instead, the time-honored Pakistani strategy of paying “lip service” to American demands while, in this case, trying to preserve his Al Qaeda Core and Taliban puppets insofar as possible to maintain Pakistani control over Afghanistan. And we have been fighting Pakistan’s puppets ever since!!!

    So what could we recommend, other than that all other Americans be as shocked and appalled as we were???
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  • Original Proposal - Magnificent Delusions: Pakistan, the U.S., and An Epic History of Misunderstanding – Jan 8th
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  • Participant Comments - Magnificent Delusions: Pakistan, the U.S., and An Epic History of Misunderstanding – Jan 8th
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  • Reference Materials - Magnificent Delusions: Pakistan, the U.S., and An Epic History of Misunderstanding – Jan 8th
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    This section includes book reviews of “Magnificent Delusions” appearing in the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, as well as interviews of the author occurring on the PBS Newshour (aka MacNeil-Lehrer News Hour) and in the New York Times.

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    Drinking and Driving During The Holidays

    Since the preparation period for our January 8th meeting spans the holidays, the following e-mail is also offered as a Reference Material, albeit on a different topic. [Its sender is one of the London recipients of our weekly Reading Liberally e-mail -- Tony Violaris is a long-time friend and fellow opera devotee, and a life-long composer of music for West End/Broadway plays and musicals (his children, Eleni and Adam, have also begun careers as WE/B composers).]

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    Subject: Drinking & Driving During The Holidays
    From: Andonis Violaris
    Date: Sat, December 14, 2013 9:11 am GMT
    To: John Karls
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    Dear John,

    With the Holidays upon us I'd like to share a personal experience about drinking and driving.

    As you may know, some of us have been known to have brushes with the authorities from time to time on the way home after a "social session" out with friends.

    Well, two days ago I was out for an evening with friends and had several cocktails followed by some rather nice red wine. Feeling jolly, I still had the sense to know that I might be slightly over the limit. That's when I did something that I've never done before - I took a cab home.

    Sure enough on the way home there was a police road block, but since it was a cab they waved it past. I arrived home safely without incident.

    This was a real surprise as I had never driven a cab before, I don't know where I got it and now that it's in my garage I don't know what to do with it.

    Be safe this holiday season!

    Best wishes,
    Tony Violaris
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline – Third-Trimester Abortions – Dec. 11th
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  • Original Proposal – Third-Trimester Abortions – Dec. 11th
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    CLICK ON THIS SECTION FOR, INTER ALIA --

    (1) The text of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Roe v. Wade.
    (2) The Wikipedia article on Dr. Kermit Gosnell.


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    FOCUS FOR DEC 11TH = THIRD-TRIMESTER ABORTIONS

    Our next meeting is Wed evening, December 11th. Unfortunately, we expect to be able to show the movie, After Tiller, before our meeting and -- (1) we are not permitted to show it at the Salt Lake Public Library where our meetings normally take place (we will meet at the nearby home of two of our regular members), and (2) we are not permitted to show it to the public (accordingly only our regular members will be permitted to attend).

    Suggested Reference Materials are After Tiller, the movie, the Wikipedia article on Dr. Kermit Gosnell which is posted on http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org, the text of the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade which is also posted, and any other materials that our participants decide to post.

    "After Tiller explores the highly controversial subject of third-trimester abortions in the wake of the 2009 assassination of practitioner Dr. George Tiller. The procedure is now performed by only four doctors in the United States, all former colleagues of Dr. Tiller, who risk their lives every day in the name of their unwavering commitment toward their patients." The movie, which is no longer playing at the Broadway Theatre, presents quite well the view that third-trimester abortions are purely a matter between solely a woman and her doctor.

    On the other side of the issue is a massive amount of material published about the murder trial of Dr. Kermit Gosnell who was convicted on 3 murder charges and 21 felony counts of illegal late-term abortions which are illegal in Pennsylvania as well as many other states.

    As of 10/1/2013, 41 states prohibit abortion after a certain point in the pregnancy -- 21 at fetal viability, 4 in the third trimester, 8 after a certain number of weeks (generally 24 or during the third trimester), and 8 after 20 weeks post-fertilization (or 22 weeks after the last menstrual cycle) on the grounds that the fetus can feel pain after that point.

    The US Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade permits states to prohibit third-trimester abortions so long as there are certain exceptions (such as preserving the life of the mother). Accordingly, the Supreme Court will probably soon hear a case from one of the 8 states that prohibit abortions after 22 weeks when fetuses are able to feel pain (24 is the beginning of the third trimester).

    Standard procedure for third-trimester abortions per After Tiller is, Step 1, a lethal injection to the heart of the fetus, because natural childbirth (albeit of a dead fetus) is the best way to safeguard the mother's ability to have children in the future.

    [Accordingly, one wonders why Dr. Gosnell was "snipping spinal cords" of live viable babies after childbirth, which was the basis of the 3 murder convictions!!!]


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    PLEASE RSVP WHETHER YOU WILL ATTEND AND WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AFTER TILLER
    (RSVP to ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com)

    If you are one of our regular members, please RSVP to indicate whether you plan to attend so that our hosts, two of our regular members, know for how many attendees to plan.

    And whether you would like to see After Tiller immediately prior to our Dec 11th meeting (its running time is 85 minutes, so we plan to show it beginning 5:30 pm to finish by our regular starting time of 7:00 pm).
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    A very-readable text of Roe v. Wade is contained in a Microsoft Word file that is embedded in Q&A-10 of the Suggested Answers to the Short Quiz that are posted in this section.
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  • Reference Materials – Third-Trimester Abortions – Dec. 11th
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    Please see the section above entitled "Original Proposal" for, inter alia: (1) the Wikipedia article on Dr. Kermit Gosnell, the Philadelphia doctor who was convicted of murdering three just-born children by snipping their spinal cords and convicted on 21 felony counts of illegal third-term abortions under Pennsylvania law, and (2) the text of the U.S. Supreme Court's 1973 land-mark Roe v. Wade decision finding a constitutional right to abortion (though permitting states to ban third-term abortions provided there are certain exceptions, such as preserving the life of the mother).

    Click on this section for additional reference materials such as a NY Times article on Albuquerque NM's 11/19/2013 vote against banning abortion after 20 weeks, which is when fetuses begin to feel pain (24 weeks is the beginning of the third trimester).

    As set forth in the Original Proposal: "As of 10/1/2013, 41 states prohibit abortion after a certain point in the pregnancy -- 21 at fetal viability, 4 in the third trimester, 8 after a certain number of weeks (generally 24 or during the third trimester), and 8 after 20 weeks post-fertilization (or 22 weeks after the last menstrual cycle) on the grounds that the fetus can feel pain after that point." So it would appear that the issue of 20 weeks vs. 24 weeks will reach the U.S. Supreme Court soon in cases involving at least one of the 8 states that ban abortion after 20 weeks.
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  • Discussion Outline - Will Ayatollah Khomenei Destroy The World??? - Nov 13
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  • Original Proposal - Who Is Ayatollah Khamenei by an Iranian Journalist/Dissident - Nov 13
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    Our next meeting is Wednesday evening, November 13th, at the Salt Lake Public Library (200 East 400 South).

    Our focus will be Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and a 15-page article about him in Foreign Affairs Magazine.

    [The text of the article is contained in the Original Proposal which is available in this section and it is also posted below in the Reference Materials section.]

    When last we focused on American foreign policy, we agreed that preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons is in the national interest because (1) each of the Gulf State Six (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.) will immediately go nuclear if Iran does, (2) Iran's Supreme Leader is fond of proclaiming that he wants to rule the Middle East and, for good measure, that Israel should be destroyed and Israel is only "a one bomb country" leading one to assume that he will start a nuclear holocaust in no time flat, and (3) 50% of the world's oil supplies come from the Persian Gulf OR DOWNWIND from the Persian Gulf which means that the lives of 3.5 billion of the earth's 7 billion human population would immediately no longer be sustainable (NB: virtually all of the world's fertilizers are made from petrochemicals).

    The reason why the Cold War policy of Mutual Assured Destruction ("MAD") worked so well in producing a stable standoff with the Soviet Union is that all of the leaders of the Soviet Union had grown up on farms as a result of which they loved the Russian people and were not about to sacrifice them on the altar of some crazy notion.

    But can the same be said of Ayatollah Khamenei???

    Particularly when he says at least once a week that he wants to rule the Middle East and, for good measure, nuke Israel.

    And when he is perceived as so dangerous and unstable by Turkey, Egypt and the Gulf State Six (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, The United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman) that each has announced that it will go nuclear as soon as Iran does.

    [Because none of the eight countries trusts the "American Nuclear Umbrella" any more than Charles de Gaulle when he pulled France out of NATO and developed French nuclear weapons because he believed that America would never engage in nuclear war with the Soviet Union to save France.]

    The author of the Foreign Affairs article is Akbar Ganji, an Iranian journalist who has been called "Iran's pre-eminent political dissident." He was imprisoned in Tehran from 2000 to 2006 following which he left Iran. He is an honorary citizen of many European cities and has been showered with many awards. His writings are banned in Iran.
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  • Reference Materials - Who Is Ayatollah Khamenei by an Iranian Journalist/Dissident - Nov 13
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    Click here to access the Foreign Affairs Magazine article on which our November 13th meeting will be focusing.
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  • Discussion Outline - Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea - Oct 9th
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    On 10/9/2013 we will discuss the current U.S. governmental shut-down over the failure to enact a “Continuing Resolution” authorizing governmental expenditures after 9/30/2013 as it is merging with the failure to enact an increase in the “Debt Ceiling” needed to continue borrowing after 10/17/2013 when we hit the credit limit on our “national credit card.”

    Background for both issues is set forth beautifully in our focus book = Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea by Mark Blyth, Brown U. Prof. Of Intl. Political Economy (Oxford U Press - 4/25/2013 - $18.96 Hardcover + Shipping or $9.50 Kindle from Amazon.com - 244 pages excluding notes & index).

    First-time attendees, pursuant to our long-standing policy, are not required to read the book before “dipping their toes in the water” to find out what our discussions are like.
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  • Original Proposal - Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea - Oct 9th
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  • Reference Materials - Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea - Oct 9th
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    Our focus is “Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea” by Mark Blyth, Brown U. Prof. Of Intl. Political Economy (Oxford U Press – 4/25/2013 – $18.96 Hardcover + Shipping or $9.50 Kindle from Amazon.com – 304 pages).

    Ordinarily, we post in this “Reference Materials” section book reviews from the NY Times, Washington Post and other publications vis-à-vis particular topics (e.g., The Wall Street Journal for financial matters or the London Guardian-Observer for international matters).

    However, “Austerity: The History of a Dangerous Idea” has NOT been reviewed by any of these publications.

    Nevertheless, posted in this section are reviews of “Austerity” by two well-known American economists:

    (1) Harvard Prof. Lawrence Summers – who is one of the two leading candidates* to be appointed by President Obama to succeed Ben Bernanke early next year as Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Summers has taken leaves of absence from the Harvard Economics Department to serve as Director of President Obama’s National Economic Council 2009-2010, President of Harvard University 2001-2006, U.S. Treasury Secretary 1999-2001, Deputy U.S. Treasury Secretary 1995-1999 and Chief Economist of the World Bank 1991-1993. [Prof. Summers was fired as President of Harvard University for making negative remarks about the ability of women in general to study mathematics and science; obviously Harvard had not done sufficient due diligence in selecting him as President because he had authored an extensive paper as Chief Economist for the World Bank arguing that industries which create extensive pollution should be located in third-world countries where life is cheap -- which should have alerted the Harvard search committee that Prof. Summers is prone to make impolitic statements.] [Movie buffs will also recall the scene in The Social Network where the Winklevoss twins complain to Harvard President Lawrence Summers that Mark Zuckerberg has violated the Harvard Student Handbook in allegedly stealing the Winklevoss’ idea which eventually developed into Facebook.]

    (2) Princeton Prof. Paul Krugman – who is a Nobel Laureate and who is also a regular OpEd writer for the NY Times. [Prof. Krugman’s review actually covers “Austerity” and two other books.]

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    * Prof. Summers was thought by virtually all political commentators to be President Obama’s first choice to become Federal Reserve Chairman early next year -- however, Prof. Summers withdrew his name from consideration two days after the foregoing information was posted on this bulletin board.
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  • CALL TO ACTION - SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN TO PRESIDENT OBAMA REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THORIUM AS THE GREEN ENERGY SOURCE FOR THE FUTURE WHICH WILL, INTER ALIA, SOLVE OCEANIC ACIDIFICATION
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    Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:59 pm
  • CALL TO ACTION - SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN TO PRESIDENT OBAMA REGARDING THE ENFORCEMENT OF OCEAN CONSERVATION
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  • Discussion Outline - Oceana by Ted Danson - Sep 11
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    Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:47 pm
  • Original Proposal - Oceana by Ted Danson - Sep 11
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    Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:58 am
  • Participant Comments - Oceana by Ted Danson - Sep 11
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    Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:16 am
  • Reference Materials - Oceana by Ted Danson - Sep 11
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    Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:52 am
  • Discussion Outline - Our Current House-Of-Cards National Banking System - Aug 14
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  • Original Proposal - Our Current House-Of-Cards National Banking System - Aug 14
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    NB: RSVP'S REQUIRED -- PLEASE SEE NEXT SECTION FOR DETAILS.

    Our focus will be “The Bankers New Clothes: What’s Wrong with Banking and What To Do About It” by Anat Admati and Martin Hellwig (Princeton U Press – 2/24/2013 - $22.03 from Amazon.com – 392 pages)

    Ms. Anat Admati (PhD Stanford; MA, Yale; BSc, Hebrew Univ. Jerusalem) is a Professor at Stanford’s Graduate School of Business and Mr. Martin Hellwig (PhD, M.I.T., Diploma in Economics, University of Heidelberg, Germany) is an Economics Professor at the University of Bonn, Germany

    The central problem at the core of “The Bankers’ New Clothes” is how thin the capital ratios are for commercial banks, say only 3% of deposits -- compared to, say, even 20% equity being considered “thin” for regular corporations and less than 20% equity being considered “sub prime” for a home mortgage. For Admati and Hellwig, the solution is obvious = increase the capital ratios required by bank regulators.

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    However, the basic rot which our authors will undoubtedly explain, is caused by the lack of “market discipline” when “free money” is available. In other words, our national banking system obtains “free money” (i.e., deposits at far less than the interest rates that would prevail if the actual degree of risk were taken into account) because of the guarantees of the U.S. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (”FDIC”). When such “free money” is invested in risky assets such as sub-prime mortgages, the result is disaster.

    So why were we so surprised at the recent economic meltdown of commercial banks that invested “free money” in subprime mortgages???

    After all, this was nothing more than a Grade Z re-run of the “Savings and Loan Crisis” of the 1980’s and 1990’s!!! The S&L’s had also obtained their “free money” courtesy of U.S. governmental deposit guarantees and invested the “free money” in long-term fixed-rate mortgages. When the Federal Reserve Bank had to raise interest rates in the 1980’s to combat inflation, the S&L’s were “caught with their pants down” -- having to pay the high short-term interest rates on their deposits while being stuck with the low long-term interest income on their mortgages.

    The stupidity of the S&L’s in funding long-term assets with short-term borrowing was just as stupid as the commercial banks during the last decade funding sub-prime mortgages with their “free money”!!!

    The U.S. Government’s Resolution Trust Corporation which was formed to salvage as much value as possible from the “toxic assets” of the failed S&L’s (to use a term that became popular with the recent meltdown of the commercial banks), was forced to shut down 747 of the nation’s 3,234 S&L’s at a total cost of $370 billion according to estimates of the U.S. General Accounting Office (“GAO”) of which $341 billion was borne by U.S. taxpayers!!! [And that was when the U.S. dollar was still worth something!!!]

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    Additional rot which our authors will also undoubtedly explain, was the 1999 repeal of the depression-era Glass-Steagall Act which, for 66 years, had prevented commercial banks and their “free money” from being combined with investment banks and their risky investment vehicles.

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    Obviously, commercial banks are still permitted to obtain “free money” courtesy of FDIC guarantees, they are still permitted to have razor-thin capital ratios (3% according to our authors when 20% for a normal corporation would be considered over-leveraged), and they are still permitted to be combined with investment banks and their risky investment vehicles.
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  • ELLEN BIRRELL & JIM HUTCHINS – RSVP’S FOR AUG 14
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    Ellen Birrell and her husband, Jim Hutchins, were stalwarts of Reading Liberally during its first 2-3 years of existence, whereupon they "pulled up stakes" the end of 2008 to sail the world on their yacht, Boldly Go.

    They are in town for other matters but will attend our Aug 14th meeting.

    Since Ellen and Jim still have so many friends in the area (for example, Ellen was on the Board of the Salt Lake County Democrats), it is respectfully requested that anyone planning to come on Aug 14th RSVP so we know whether to "kill the fatted calf" (i.e., provide anything more festive than our regular coffee/decaf with chocolate-chunk cookies and peanut butter cookies) and whether to request accommodations for more than 20.

    Simply e-mail ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com with "I will attend Aug 14 (with guest(s) John Doe (and Jane Roe))."
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  • Participant Comments - Our Current House-Of-Cards National Banking System - Aug 14
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    Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:55 pm
  • Reference Materials - Our Current House-Of-Cards National Banking System - Aug 14
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    Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:31 am
  • Original Proposal - The Thistle and The Drone - July 10th
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    Our focus for July 10th will be The Thistle and The Drone: How America's War on Terror Became a Global War on Tribal Islam by Akbar Ahmed ($24.32 + shipping hard cover & $18.12 kindle edition from Amazon.com -- 369 pages excluding notes & index).

    The former Pakistani-Government Administrator of South Waziristan (the tribal area often called the most dangerous place on earth), Akbar Ahmed is the Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University in Washington, D.C. He was the former Pakistani High Commissioner to the United Kingdom (NB: The Ambassador of one member of the British Commonwealth to another member of the British Commonwealth is known as the High Commissioner rather than as the Ambassador), the first Distinguished Chair of Middle East Studies at the U.S. Naval Academy, and is a non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Among his previous books are Journey into Islam and Journey into America, both published by Brookings. He is also a published poet and playwright.

    AT THE REQUEST OF PAKISTAN, RUSSIA AND CHINA, the United Nations launched last January an investigation of the U.S. drone-assassination program. The report is scheduled to be submitted to the U.N. General Assembly in October.

    TOM BROKAW SAID ON MEET THE PRESS 4/21/2013: “And I think we also have to examine the use of drones that the United States is involved and -- and there are a lot of civilians who are innocently killed in a drone attack in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, and in Iraq. And I can tell you having spent a lot of time over there, young people will come up to me on the streets and say we love America. If you harm one hair on the -- on the head of my sister, I will fight you forever and there is enormous rage against what they see in that part of the world as a presumptuousness of the United States.”
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  • Discussion Outline - The Thistle and The Drone - July 10th
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    Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:48 pm
  • Reference Materials - The Thistle and The Drone - July 10th
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    Sun Jun 23, 2013 5:32 pm
  • Participant Comments - The Thistle and The Drone - July 10th
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    Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:20 pm
  • Meeting Cancellation - The New Digital Age by Google's Eric Schmidt & Jared Cohen - June 12th
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    Please click here for "Meeting Cancellation Rationale" and "Utah Owl's Reaction."

    "Meeting Cancellation Rationale" explains in greater detail that this was the second time in our 7.5-year history that we failed to muster our minimum quorum of six, in which case our long-standing policy is to cancel. [We were one short of our quorum.]

    "Utah Owl's Reaction" registers her extreme disappointment in reaction to which John Karls offered to treat each of our five members who had RSVP'd to attend the meeting to dinner at Cannella's for an unofficial meeting at which The New Digital Age would be discussed.

    If anyone happens to read this before 7:00 pm Wed June 12th and would like to join us, s/he would be welcome!!! [Cannella's is half a block south of the SLC Public Library and occupies the southeast corner of 200 East and 500 South.]

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    NEW POLICY GOING FORWARD

    In order to guarantee our members who read the book for one of our monthly meetings that the meeting will take place as scheduled, our new policy is to ask our recent attendees for commitments to read the book and attend the meeting.

    For July 10th, we have four such "sponsors" as of 6/14/2013.

    However, as in the past, we will not recommend a "Six-Degrees-Of-Separation E-mail Campaign" following a meeting in which fewer than our old minimum quorum of six participated. [Please see the first section of this Bulletin Board for more information about our E-mail campaigns.]
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  • Participant Comments - The New Digital Age by Google's Eric Schmidt & Jared Cohen - June 12th
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  • Original Proposal - The New Digital Age by Google's Eric Schmidt & Jared Cohen - June 12th
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    Click here for the original proposal including extensive biographies of our authors, Eric Schmidt (Executive Chairman of Google, which he served as Chief Executive Officer from 2001 to 2011) and Jared Cohen, (Director of Google Ideas, Google’s NYC-based think tank).

    The Reference Materials section below contains book reviews by the NY Times, The London Guardian/Observer and the London Telegraph as well as an interview of the authors about their new book by the Huffington Post.

    Testimonials include --

    BILL CLINTON -- "Every day, technological innovations are giving people around the world new opportunities to shape their own destinies. In this fascinating book, Eric Schmidt and Jared Cohen draw upon their unique experiences to show us a future of rising incomes, growing participation and a genuine sense of community -- IF we make the right choices today." (original emphasis on IF)

    MADELEINE ALBRIGHT -- "This is the book I have been waiting for: a concise and persuasive description of technology's impact on war, peace, freedom and diplomacy. The New Digital Age is a guide to the future written by two experts who possess a profound understanding of humanity's altered prospects in a wireless world."

    HENRY KISSINGER -- "Eric Schmidt and Jared Cohen have produced a searching meditation on technology and world order. Even those who disagree with some of their conclusions will learn much from this thought-provoking volume."

    TONY BLAIR (Former UK Labor Prime Minister) -- "This is a book that describes a technological revolution in the making. How we navigate it is a challenge for countries, communities and citizens. There are no two people better equipped to explain what it means than Eric Schmidt and Jared Cohen."
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  • Reference Materials - The New Digital Age by Google's Eric Schmidt & Jared Cohen - June 12th
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  • Discussion Outline - Federal Bailouts of Illinois and Detroit, Etc., Etc., Etc. - May 8th
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    Sat May 11, 2013 7:38 am
  • Original Proposal - Federal Bailouts of Illinois and Detroit, Etc., Etc., Etc. - May 8th
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  • Participant Comments - Federal Bailouts of Illinois and Detroit, Etc., Etc., Etc. – May 8th
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  • Reference Materials - Federal Bailouts of Illinois and Detroit, Etc., Etc., Etc. – May 8th
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    The focus of our next meeting (May 8th) will be the “Looming Federal Bailouts of Illinois and Detroit, Etc., Etc., Etc.” caused primarily by under-funding of state and local pension plans that the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimated in 2011 probably amounts to $4 TRillion.

    Recent events include the spectacle of the bankruptcy filing of Stockton CA being supported by Calpers (the California state-employee pension fund) but opposed by bondholders because Stockton proposes to short-change bondholders disproportionately in order to protect Calpers.

    While the bankruptcy filing of San Bernardino CA is opposed by Calpers and supported by bondholders because San Bernardino proposes to treat all creditors equally.

    And Detroit MI was even denied the privilege of filing for bankruptcy by the Governor of Michigan who announced a state takeover two months ago (local governments are chartered by each state which can modify or revoke the charter at any time). Yesterday (4/12/2013) the Mayor of Detroit who no longer has any power, proposed a budget with a $380 million deficit, and the Dictator of Detroit appointed by the Governor, issued a press release rebuking the Mayor and reminding him that he has no authority.

    We will also study why municipalities get a “free pass” under the Bankruptcy Law. After all, if homeowners in a geographical area formed a partnership to provide themselves with police and fire protection, schools for their children, etc., all of the homeowners would be personally liable for the debts of the partnership, including unfunded pension liabilities.

    If the homeowners had used a real partnership instead of calling their partnership a “municipal government,” creditors such as their employees suing for their pensions, would be able to obtain in Federal Bankruptcy Court such remedies as attaching the salaries of all the residents, and liquidating their assets (INCLUDING THE FORECLOSURE OF THEIR HOMES subject to any so-called Homestead Exemptions) to pay the pensions.

    This could, of course, turn the geographical area into a proverbial Ghost Town. Which Detroit and many other urban centers, already are.

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    Even if the pols wanted the federal government to bail out all the profligate state and local governments, would the federal government have the financial capacity for doing so???

    And what if, for example, the federal government could only bail out the pensions for the employees of the profligate (primarily Blue) states and their local governments, by eliminating Social Security for the general population???

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    There do not appear to be any books on this topic, so this is another occasion for which we will have to do our own homework.

    The initial reference materials posted in this section include --

    (1) The 2011 analysis of the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office explaining why the under-funding of state and local pension plans is calculated to approximate $4 TRillion.

    (2) The Wikipedia overview on municipal bankruptcies.

    (3) The statutory text of Chapter 9 of the Federal Bankruptcy Law which governs municipal bankruptcies.

    (4) The 1/28/2013 Reuters article about Detroit’s looming bankruptcy.

    (5) The 4/12/2013 Reuters article describing the War of the Budget between Detroit’s Mayor and Detroit’s State-Appointed Dictator.

    (6) The 4/3/2013 Reuters article describing the War Between Calpers and The Bondholders of Stockton CA and San Bernardino CA.
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    Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:32 am
  • Discussion Outline - Salt-Sugar-Fat: How The Food Giants Hooked Us – April 10th
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    Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:05 pm
  • Original Proposal - Salt-Sugar-Fat: How The Food Giants Hooked Us – April 10th
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    Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:39 am
  • Participant Comments – Salt-Sugar-Fat: How The Food Giants Hooked Us – April 10th
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    Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:20 pm
  • Reference Materials – Salt-Sugar-Fat: How The Food Giants Hooked Us – April 10th
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    Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:20 am
  • UNOFFICIAL SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN TO PRESIDENT OBAMA REGARDING ANNUAL DEFICITS AND ACCUMULATED DEBT
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    Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:06 pm
  • Discussion Outline - How To Regain America's Competitive Edge And Boost Our Global Standing - March 13th
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    Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:05 am
  • Original Proposal – How To Regain America’s Competitive Edge And Boost Our Global Standing – March 13th
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    Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:00 pm
  • Participant Comments - How To Regain America’s Competitive Edge And Boost Our Global Standing – March 13th
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    Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:56 pm
  • Reference Materials - How To Regain America’s Competitive Edge And Boost Our Global Standing – March 13th
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    Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:53 pm
  • Discussion Outline - John Brennan's Nomination To Head The CIA - Feb 6th
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  • Original Proposal - John Brennan's Nomination To Head The CIA - Feb 6th
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    For February 6th (since Feb 13th is Ash Wednesday and our policy is to avoid holidays such as Yom Kippur and Valentine's Day), we will focus on the pending nomination of John Brennan to head the CIA. John Brennan spent a 25-year career at the CIA during which time he embraced “enhanced interrogation techniques.” He has spent the last 4 years as President Obama’s Counter-Terrorism Chief in which capacity his primary responsibilities were to maintain President Obama’s “Kill List” and supervise the drone assassinations which have vastly increased in number under President Obama and, for the first time, included American citizens as targets.

    Our suggested reading is “Hard Measures: How Aggressive CIA Actions After 9/11 Saved American Lives” by Jose A. Rodriguez, Jr., head of the CIA’s Clandestine (“Dark Side”) Services following 9/11 until his retirement in January 2008 to work on this book (Hardcover 4/30/2012 by Simon & Shuster – $15.16 from Amazon.com + shipping – 261 pages)

    Everyone is also encouraged to see the movie “Zero Dark Thirty” which opened in first-run movie theatres throughout Salt Lake County 1/11/2013 and which was intended by President Obama to be Hollywood’s homage to his assassination of Osama bin Laden. [It has received an Oscar “Best Picture” nomination and Jessica Chastain, who is nominated for the "Best Actress" Oscar, has already won the Golden Globe for "Best Actress."]

    Indeed, the Obama Administration was accused of leaking zillions of items of classified information to the movie’s producers to facilitate the homage. However, the movie’s producers added information obtained from the C.I.A. about how Osama’s assassination would not have been possible without information obtained by “water boarding” and the Justice Department has announced an investigation of the C.I.A. to ascertain who leaked this information. [In addition, Senate Intelligence Committee Chair Diane Feinstein and Sen. John McCain have written to the CIA’s acting director demanding to know how this information was leaked.]

    For movie buffs, another highly-entertaining but purely fictional movie which poses extremely well the “ticking time bomb” question whether to use water-boarding to save American lives (which, per Tim Russert when he moderated the first 2008-cycle Presidential debate at Dartmouth College on 9/28/2007, was the official policy of the Clinton Administration) is “Unthinkable” starring Samuel L. Jackson and released in 2010. Samuel L. Jackson is a “black ops” interrogator/torturer whose handlers (all the way to the White House) are “Holier Than Thou” except during frequent periods when it looks like substantial numbers of Americans might get nuked.

    Please click on the title of this section to see the original proposal which included, inter alia, the CBS "60 Minutes" transcript of a 4/29/2012 interview of our author and the lengthy 5/29/2012 NY Times Article on President Obama's "Kill List."

    We hope to see all of you on Wed evening Feb 6th!!!
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  • Participant Comments - John Brennan's Nomination To Head The CIA - Feb 6th
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  • Reference Materials - John Brennan's Nomination To Head The CIA - Feb 6th
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    Please refer to the "Reference Materials" Section of this Bulletin Board for our 5/14/2008 meeting for 22 voluminous reference materials that are relevant here. They include the text of the so-called Bush "torture memos" and the text of the decision of the European Court of Human Rights in The IRA v. The UK regarding whether 5 specific enhanced interrogation methods constituted "torture" and the CIA briefings of "The Gang of Eight" (who were the Chair and Ranking Member of the four Congressional intelligence committees including, famously, Nancy Pelosi as subsequently "outed" by Leon Panetta as CIA chief at the time of the "outing").

    However, you should click on the title above for additional reference materials such as the CBS "60 Minutes" Transcript of its 4/29/12 interview of our author and the lengthy NY Times 5/29/12 article on President Obama's "Kill List" -- both of which were part of the Original Proposal of this Topic.
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  • Discussion Outline - Assisted Suicide - Jan 9th
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  • Original Proposal - Assisted Suicide - Jan 9th
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    Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:02 am
  • Participant Comments - Assisted Suicide - Jan 9th
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    Fri Dec 28, 2012 5:33 am
  • Reference Materials - Assisted Suicide - Jan 9th
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    Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:04 pm
  • Discussion Outline - It's Even Worse Than It Looks by Mann + Ornstein - Dec 12th
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    Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:29 am
  • Original Proposal - It's Even Worse Than It Looks By Mann + Ornstein - Dec 12th
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    Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:02 am
  • Reference Materials - It's Even Worse Than It Looks By Mann + Ornstein - Dec 12th
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    Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:24 am
  • Participant Comments - It's Even Worse Than It Looks By Mann + Ornstein - Dec 12th
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  • SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN TO PRINCETON ECONOMICS NOBEL-LAUREATE PROF. AND NY TIMES OP-ED COLUMNIST PAUL KRUGMAN – YOUR HELP DESPERATELY NEEDED TO AVERT ANOTHER ECONOMIC MELTDOWN - ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE
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    Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:50 am
  • Discussion Outline - The Price of Inequality - Nov. 14th
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    Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:04 pm
  • Original Proposal - The Price of Inequality - November 14th
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    Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:37 am
  • Participant Comments - The Price of Inequality - November 14th
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    Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:15 pm
  • Reference Materials - The Price of Inequality - November 14th
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  • SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN TO D.O.E. SECRETARY CHU – R&D FOR THORIUM, THE GREEN ENERGY SOURCE FOR THE FUTURE - ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE
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    Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:50 pm
  • Discussion Outline - Thorium: The Green Energy Source For The Future – October 10th
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  • Original Proposal – Thorium: The Green Energy Source For The Future – October 10th
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    Our next meeting is Wednesday evening, Oct. 10th, at the Salt Lake Public Library.

    Our focus will be “Super Fuel: Thorium, the Green Energy Source for the Future” by Richard Martin ($16.87 from Amazon.com + shipping - 272 pages).

    It was recommended by Cal Burgart who was our nuclear expert when we focused at our 4/13/2011 meeting on the Japanese Nuclear-Plant Disaster. Cal has a B.S. in Nuclear Engineering and obtained his PhD in Nuclear Engineering from the Univ. of Tennessee at Oakridge. [For non-cognoscenti, Oak Ridge is the nation’s nuclear-science laboratory which is managed for the U.S. Dept. of Energy by the Univ. of Tenn.]

    There is posted in this section the 5/4/2012 NPR interview of Richard Martin, the author of “Super Fuel,” which Cal included with his proposal.

    Incidentally, as we studied for our 4/13/2011 meeting, the earth’s core is 7,000°F which is hotter than the surface of the sun because 60%-90% of the heat in the earth’s core is produced by nuclear power as thorium in the earth’s core comprises the earth’s largest nuclear reactor!!! And we remarked that no wonder that molten lava billows out of any fissure in the earth’s surface!!!
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    Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:14 am
  • Participant Comments - Thorium: The Green Energy Source For The Future – October 10th
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  • Reference Materials - Thorium: The Green Energy Source For The Future – October 10th
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    Please click here for, inter alia: (1) book reviews of "Superfuel" in Foreign Affairs Magazine and the Washington Times and (2) a recent article in the Huffington Post about Liquid Floride Thorium Reactors which does not specifically mention "Superfuel."

    Please click on "Original Proposal" (two sections above) for the 5/4/2012 NPR interview of Richard Martin, the author of "Superfuel," regarding his new book.
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  • SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN FOR PROSECUTION OF BILL AND MELINDA GATES AT THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT FOR "CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY" (only 5 minutes needed to participate)
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  • Discussion Outline – DOES CALLING A RATTLESNAKE A CANARY SOLVE THE PROBLEM IF THE “CANARY” BITES YOU??? – September 12th
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    Click here for the Suggested Discussion Outline for Prof. Diane Ravitch’s “The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education.”

    After reading Prof. Ravitch’s book, isn’t it obvious that what is really needed is for former President Bill Clinton to read it also and then to pronounce with one of his inimitable smiles – “IT’S THE SOCIOLOGY, STUPID!!!”

    After all, John Karls has reminded us each time we study the inner-city holocaust that Identical-Twin Studies (the Gold Standard for determining what is hereditary and what is environmental) consistently show that when inner-city identical-twins are orphaned before their first birthday and one is adopted by a suburban family while the other continues to live in the inner-city, the identical twins adopted by suburban families develop by adulthood measured IQ’s equal to average suburban measured IQ’s, while their identical twins who remain in the inner-cities develop by adulthood measured IQ’s equal to average inner-city measured IQ’s.

    And then John Karls always reminds us each time we study the inner-city holocaust that when he was the volunteer treasurer for Eugene Lang’s National “I Have A Dream”® Foundation during the 1990’s when John was one of 179 people (mostly CEO’s of major corporations) who stepped forward to replicate what Gene had done at Harlem P.S. 121 by adopting an entire third-grade class in an inner-city school or an entire third-grade cohort in an inner-city public housing project, that the prevailing conditions in the 51 inner-cities in which the original 179 projects operated were –

    · 99% of the “Dreamers” living in single-adult households,
    · 95% of total “Dreamer” households headed by single-adults who were drug addicts,
    · 75%-80% of total “Dreamer” households headed by a single-adult druggie who turned over any receipts to the pusher so the kids had to steal just in order to eat,
    · 100% of the 35-40 kindergartners in the Sunday School of the Baptist Church across the street from John Karls’ first public-housing project drawing only WHITE nurses, teachers, airplane pilots, chefs, etc., when asked to draw what they wanted to be when they grew up BECAUSE THEY ALREADY KNEW AT THE AGE OF FIVE THAT THEY WERE INELIGIBLE FOR THEIR DREAMS!!!
    · In an environment where the pushers recruit the third graders to be runners, every child knows by third grade that their only realistic career objectives are to be a pimp or pusher, or a girl friend of a pimp or pusher.

    And then John Karls always reminds us that those original 1979 IHAD programs in 51 American cities transformed the prevailing SINGLE-DIGIT High-School graduation rates to 60%-65% high-school graduation/college-matriculation rates and that, if the IHAD tutors/mentors told their female “Dreamers” for whom the pregnancy rate was 50% in the first group of IHAD projects that “You could make something of yourself with this program AND IT WOULD BREAK MY HEART IF YOU DIDN’T,” the high-school graduation/college-matriculation rates exceeded 90%.

    So, as Bill Clinton would ask, why does anyone in their right mind see the prevailing SINGLE-DIGIT High-School graduation rates in America’s inner-cities as an EDUCATION problem rather than a SOCIOLOGY problem, for which significant results require tutors/mentors who become surrogate parents, coupled with a transformation of the prevailing atmosphere in a third-grade inner-city class (or third-grade cohort in a public housing project) as a result of a college-tuition guarantee as the class/cohort proceeds from third grade through high school???
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  • Original Proposal - Gates Foundation Crimes Against US Education Policy – September 12th
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  • Participant Comments - Gates Foundation Crimes Against US Education Policy – September 12th
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  • Reference Materials - Gates Foundation Crimes Against US Education Policy – September 12th
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  • Discussion Outline - Winner-Take-All-Politics – August 8th
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  • Original Proposal – Winner-Take-All-Politics – August 8th
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  • Participant Comments – Winner-Take-All-Politics – August 8th
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  • Reference Materials – Winner-Take-All-Politics – August 8th
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    "Winner-Take-All Politics" is the first book in our 6.5-year history to be the subject of two different NY Times OpEd Columnists - Bob Herbert and Frank Rich.

    Click here to view the two OpEd columns and a NY Times composite Book Review which puts "Winner-Take-All Politics" in context.
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  • Discussion Outline - Gates Foundation's "Crimes Against Humanity" - July 11th
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    Why Melinda Gates and the Gates Foundation should be prosecuted in the International Criminal Court for "Crimes Against Humanity" as defined in the "Rome Statute" establishing the I.C.C.
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  • Participant Comments - Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman - July 11th
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  • Original Proposal - Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman - July 11th
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  • Discussion Outline - How Invisible Policies Undermine American Democracy - June 13th
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  • Reference Materials - Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman - July 11th
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  • Original Proposal - How Invisible Governmental Policies Undermine American Democracy - June 13th
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  • Participant Comments - How Invisible Governmental Policies Undermine American Democracy - June 13th
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  • Discussion Outline -- Merchants of Doubt -- May 9th
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  • Original Proposal -- Merchants of Doubt -- May 9th
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    Our focus will be the long-time NY Times best-seller “Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming” by Naomi Oreskes and Erik M.M. Conway – Paperback 5/24/2011 ($12.16 from Amazon.com + shipping – 274 pages).

    Naomi Oreskes is one of the world’s leading historians of science. Professor of History and Science Studies at the University of California, San Diego, and Adjunct Professor of Geosciences at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, her PhD is in Geological Research and the History of Science.

    Her research focuses on consensus and dissent in science. She has won numerous prizes for her work, and has lectured widely in such diverse venues as the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory. Her 2004 essay “The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change,” cited by Al Gore in An Inconvenient Truth, led to Op-Ed pieces in the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the San Francisco Chronicle, and to Congressional testimony in the U.S Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works.

    Erik Conway is the historian at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. He examines the intersections of space science, Earth science, and technological change. He most recently received the 2009 NASA History award for “pathbreaking contributions to space history ranging from aeronautics to Earth and space sciences,” and the 2009 AIAA History Manuscript Award for his fourth book, “Atmospheric Science at NASA: A History.”

    Conway became a historian after serving as an officer in the US Navy in the early 1990s, where he had minor roles in planning the US withdrawal from Somalia and the non-combatant evacuation from Rawanda. He met Oreskes at an International Commission for the History of Meteorology meeting in Polling, Germany, in 2004, and began a long conversation about the denial network. This book is one product of that dialog.
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  • Participant Comments -- Merchants of Doubt -- May 9th
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  • Reference Materials - Merchants of Doubt - May 9th
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    This section contains, inter alia, two book reviews that were referenced in Utah Owl's Original Proposal.

    In addition, it contains Naomi Oreskes' original article entitled "The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change" published in 2004 in Science Magazine, the most prestigious American journal for publishing the results of scientific studies.

    A book review of Merchants of Doubt was published in Science Magazine in 2011. It is also posted here.
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  • Discussion Outline -- The Gardens of Democracy: A New American Story of Citizenship, the Economy, and the Role of Government -- April 11th
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    Dear Friends,

    After our meeting on April 11th, quite a few e-mails were received from the other 10 attendees concerning one of the comments I made during the course of our discussion.

    Since that comment should be of general interest, my response was as follows.

    In general, I was delighted with “Gardens of Democracy” because its two authors were not content with “living the good life” after being so successful, but rather have devoted an incredible amount of time analyzing and writing about what should be done to improve our society, and then have “gone on the road” with speeches, etc., to promote their solutions!!!

    “Gardens of Democracy” lays out the agenda of the Mainstream Media and takes issue with a few positions while endorsing the overwhelming majority.

    HOWEVER, AS CAN BE SEEN FROM THE THIRD AND FOURTH SECTIONS OF THIS BULLETIN BOARD, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA DOES NOT CARE ABOUT AMERICA’S PERMANENT UNDERCLASS AND DOES NOT EVEN BOTHER TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER ITS BELIEFS ABOUT THE PERMANENT UNDERCLASS ARE TRUE!!!

    The most important thing to understand about America’s Permanent Underclass is that over the decades, “identical twin studies” (the “Gold Standard” for distinguishing between genetic and environmental effects) of inner-city identical twins orphaned before their first birthday where one twin is adopted by a suburban family and the other twin remains in the inner city, HAVE CONSISTENLY SHOWN THAT THE TWINS ADOPTED BY SURBURBAN FAMILIES DEVELOP BY ADULTHOOD MEASURED I.Q.’S THAT EQUAL THE AVERAGE SURBURBAN LEVEL OF MEASURED I.Q.’S, WHILE THE TWINS THAT REMAIN IN THE INNER CITY ONLY DEVELOP AVERAGE INNER-CITY MEASURED I.Q.’S.

    That is why I was so shocked and appalled that our authors would reflect the ignorance and prejudice of the Mainstream Media at --

    (A) p. 90, where our authors state that they believe that intelligence and diligence (which they label “the keys to success”) are not equally distributed!!!

    (B) p. 98, where our authors opine that it is OK to crap on the Permanent Underclass (please “pardon my French”), so long as there is a robust Middle Class!!!

    (C) p. 140, where our authors pay homage to the Myth of Upward Mobility in America!!!

    (D) p. 141, where our authors concede the falsehood that talent is not equally distributed!!!

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    As we have studied at least four times during our 6.5-year existence, the U.S. government has consistently recognized over the decades that 30% of Americans are illiterate as defined as the ability to read the warning label on a can of rat poison!!!

    Accordingly, should there have been any wonder that when the first 179 “I Have A Dream Programs” providing in 51 American inner-cities tutoring and mentoring from elementary school through H.S. graduation with a guarantee of college tuition --

    (A) 99% of the inner-city children came from single-adult households,

    (B) 95% of total inner-city households were headed by a single adult who was a drug addict, and

    (C) 75% - 80% of total inner-city households were headed by a single-adult drug addict who turned any receipts over to the pusher so the kids had to steal just in order to eat.

    [Yours Truly was organizer, chief benefactor and workhorse of one of those IHAD programs during the 1990’s, when he also served as volunteer treasurer of IHAD-National and compiled those statistics for fund-raising purposes.]

    And is it any wonder that in such an environment that the typical high school graduation rates were SINGLE DIGITS if there are added back to the base everyone who, before high school, has already dropped out or been killed or been incarcerated!!!

    So why is anyone surprised that there is a Permanent Underclass???

    And why doesn’t the Mainstream Media “give a damn” (please pardon, once more, my French)???

    Respectfully submitted,

    John Karls
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  • Original Proposal -- The Gardens of Democracy: A New American Story of Citizenship, the Economy, and the Role of Government -- April 11th
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  • Participant Comments -- The Gardens of Democracy: A New American Story of Citizenship, the Economy, and the Role of Government -- April 11th
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  • Discussion Outline - Insight Into Life In North Korea - The Orphan Master's Son by Prof. Adam Johnson - March 14th
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  • Original Proposal - Insight Into Life In North Korea - The Orphan Master's Son by Prof. Adam Johnson - March 14th
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  • Participant Comments - Insight Into Life In North Korea - The Orphan Master's Son by Prof. Adam Johnson - March 14th
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  • Reference Materials - Insight Into Life In North Korea - The Orphan Master's Son by Prof. Adam Johnson - March 14th
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  • Discussion Outline – Real Politik (aka National Interest) and Libya vs. Iran -- Feb 8th
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    In addition to the Suggested Discussion Outline, this section contains two outlines that are referenced in the Suggested Discussion Outline and that Yours truly cribbed from other sources concerning “The Just War Doctrine” as developed by the Roman Catholic Church over 2,000 years and the attitude toward war by C.S. Lewis whose “Tales of Narnia” and other religious works have been made into extremely-popular movies (both outlines were prepared by Yours Truly for another book group in which he participates and which is reading currently a C.S. Lewis biography)]
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  • Original Proposal -- Real Politik (aka National Interest) and Libya vs. Iran -- Feb 8th
    Click here for the Original Proposal and 17 replies which received 1,268 views before being transplanted here.

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    The Original Proposal on 3/21/2011 was to examine Real Politik in relation to the U.S./British/French attack on Libya because that attack was condemned on the grounds that no American “national interest” was involved by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, by senior members of the American media, and by key members of both parties in Congress including Richard Lugar (ranking minority member and former Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee).

    Although not contesting the fact that the attack on Libya involved no American “national interest,” President Obama and State Secretary Hillary Clinton organized the U.S./British/French attack on Libya in order to avoid a “blood bath” if the rebellion were not successful.

    Now, after refusing to support in 2009 the “Green Revolution” in Iran which then failed, the Obama Administration in the person of Defense Secretary Leon Panetta proclaimed on “Face the Nation” on 1/8/2012 that Iran’s developing a nuclear weapon is a “red line” and (after his co-interviewee, U.S. Joint Chiefs Chairman Martin Dempsey, confirmed military planning for a strike against Iran HAS INCLUDED POSITIONING OF MILITARY ASSETS) Leon Panetta stated -- “I think they [Iran] need to know that if they take that step [develop a nuclear weapon], that they’re going to get stopped.”

    [The transcript for the “Face the Nation” interview of Panetta and Dempsey is posted below in the “Reference Materials” section.]

    Although neither Defense Secretary Panetta nor Joint Chiefs Chairman Dempsey provided any detail on positioning military assets, the media is currently full of stories about how the American aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln is racing across the Indian Ocean to join in the Persian Gulf the carrier Carl Vinson which recently replaced the carrier John Stennis. One carrier in the P.G. is fairly routine while two in the P.G. has only happened during Gulf Wars I and II.

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    As we have studied in the past, The Gulf State Six (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, The United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman) plan to go nuclear immediately after Iran acquires nuclear weapons because, like Charles de Gaulle, they have no faith in the so-called American “nuclear umbrella.”

    And as we have studied in the past, 27.7% of worldwide oil production comes from the Middle East and another 20.2% originates “down wind” from the Middle East. Which is why the Middle East has always been viewed as a vital American “national interest.”

    It is ironic that the consensus of our foreign-policy cognoscenti is that the U.S./British/French attack on Libya has made it much more difficult to enlist support for doing anything about Iran and its “cat’s paw” Syria.

    And it is ironic that our foreign-policy cognoscenti are now waking up to the fact that the U.S./British/French attack on Libya (whose President Qaddafi gave up his nuclear-weapons program immediately after the U.S. launched Gulf War II against Iraq in 2003) appears to have convinced Iran that the only protection against an American attack is to develop nuclear weapons.

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    Our focus will be “Power Rules: How Common Sense Can Rescue American Foreign Policy” (Harper Collins - 2009) by Leslie H. Gelb -- available from your local library and from http://www.Amazon.com for $11.20 + shipping.

    Leslie Gelb crowned his 40-year Pulitzer-Prize winning career with the NY Times as OpEd-Page Editor and Foreign-Relations OpEd Columnist to become President of the Council on Foreign Relations which, inter alia, publishes Foreign Affairs, the premier foreign-policy journal. He had also served as a senior official at the State and Defense Departments and at the Brookings Institution.
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  • Participant Comments -- Real Politik (aka National Interest) and Libya vs. Iran -- Feb 8th
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  • Reference Materials -- Real Politik (aka National Interest) and Libya vs. Iran -- Feb 8th
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    Click here for, inter alia, the 1/8/2012 "Face the Nation" transcript of the interview of Defense Secretary Leon Panetta AND A 1/17/2012 ARTICLE BY OUR AUTHOR IN THE DAILY BEAST CONCERNING THE PANETTA INTERVIEW ON "FACE THE NATION" (as well as book reviews of "Power Rules: How Common Sense Can Rescue American Foreign Policy” in the NY Times and Washington Post).
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  • Discussion Outline - All The Devils Are Here: The Hidden History Of The Financial Crisis - Jan 11th
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  • Original Proposal - All The Devils Are Here: The Hidden History Of The Financial Crisis - Jan11
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  • Reference Materials - All The Devils Are Here: The Hidden History Of The Financial Crisis - Jan 11
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  • Participant Comments - All The Devils Are Here: The Hidden History Of The Financial Crisis - Jan 11
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  • CALL TO ACTION -- "SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION" E-MAIL CAMPAIGN = TRillions Being Printed To Bail Out Foreign Banks and Governments -- (ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE)
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    Editorial Note = The decision to implement this Six-Degrees-of-Separation E-mail Campaign was taken at our 12/14/2011 meeting even though the implementation was delayed for six weeks due to circumstances beyond our control.

    Although Sec. 14 of the Federal Reserve Act permits loans to foreign banks and governments, Sec. 2A clearly permits such loans only insofar as they promote U.S. employment.

    The Fed decisions to print TRillions (probably more than $10 TRillion) to bail out foreign banks/governments to promote U.S. employment is viewing the foreign banks/governments as proverbial “butterflies” whose beating wings cause a “hurricane” on the other side of the globe.

    This e-mail campaign respectfully requests President Obama to prosecute the Federal Reserve Governors for their malfeasance and to insure that printing Dollars for bail outs is confined to the few U.S. banks that might face bankruptcy from defaults by European banks/governments so that our limited resources can be focused on critical domestic needs.
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  • Discussion Outline - Balanced-Budget Amendments & Redeeming National Debt With “Wallpaper” In Both Europe and the U.S. - December 14th
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  • Original Proposal - Balanced-Budget Amendments & Redeeming National Debt With “Wallpaper” In Both Europe and the U.S. - December 14th
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  • Reference Materials - Balanced-Budget Amendments & Redeeming National Debt With “Wallpaper” In Both Europe and the U.S. - December 14th
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    In addition, please refer to the "Original Proposal" two sections above, because it contains a wealth of information.

    Click here for, inter alia, (A) information about what Bloomberg News discovered as a result of its Freedom-Of-Information-Act lawsuit regarding QE-1 which the Federal Reserve fought all the way to the US Supreme Court including how in 2008-2009 the Fed printed $7.7 TRillion and loaned it to banks on three continents, providing them with $13 billion in profits, (B) Fed Reserve Chair Bernanke's own explanation of QE-2, and (C) Fed Reserve Chair Bernanke's STEALTH QE-3 only 2 weeks after his Jackson Hole WY speech promising there would be no QE-3 (per Q&A-24/First Quiz calculations located in "Participant Comments" above), QE-3 comprised printing as much as $2.9 TRillion more dollars to keep Italy and Spain afloat through 12/31/2011.
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  • CALL TO ACTION -- "SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION" E-MAIL CAMPAIGN = Benefiting American Taxpayers For The Scientific Discoveries Of Basic Research They Have Financed -- (ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE)
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  • Discussion Outline - That Used To Be Us By Thomas Friedman - Nov 9th
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  • Original Proposal - That Used To Be Us By Thomas Friedman - Nov 9th
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  • Participant Comments - That Used To Be Us By Thomas Friedman - Nov 9th
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  • Discussion Outline - Can The Middle Class Be Saved - Oct 12th
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  • Original Proposal - Can The Middle Class Be Saved? - Oct 12th
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    Participants at our Sep 2011 meeting voted for Tom Chancellor's proposal = "Can The Middle Class Be Saved?" as the focus for our October meeting -- an article which appeared in the current (Sep 2011) issue of The Atlantic AND WHICH IS POSTED IN THE “REFERENCE MATERIALS” SECTION WHICH IS THE SECOND SECTION BELOW.

    Tom's proposal noted that there are quite a few remedies being proposed in the media and requests everyone to "keep her/his eyes open" and to come prepared for a good discussion on Oct 12.

    It would also help the cause considerably if everyone could post in the “Reference Materials” section below every good idea s/he encounters in the media and post in the “Participant Comments” section immediately following each of her/his own good ideas -- in order to spark the thinking of everyone else before our meeting.
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Even Silence Has An End by Ingrid Betencourt - Sep 14th
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  • Original Proposal - Even Silence Has An End by Ingrid Betencourt - Sep 14th
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    Silence Has An End by Ingrid Betancourt -- available from barnesandnoble.com for $16.64 + shipping.

    It is highly recommended not only by Yours Truly who heard Ingrid speak last fall in SLC, but also by Ted and Tucker Gurney (our two retired U/U-Biology-Professor members) who also guarantee that you will find it a real page turner.

    Ingrid's book describes her 6.5 years of captivity in Columbia after being kidnapped while running for President of Columbia in 2002 as the representative of the poor and dispossessed -- both of her parents had also represented the poor and dispossessed (her father had been a Minister in several Colombian governments before serving as Assistant Director of UNESCO which has a worldwide focus and then as Head of the Education Commission of U.S. President Kennedy's Alliance for Progress which focused on all of Latin America; Ingrid's mother is a former beauty queen who represented Bogota's poor and dispossessed in the Colombian Congress as a Senator).

    Ingrid started a new political party (the Green Oxygen Party) to represent the poor and dispossessed -- it also opposed corruption and the drug cartels which had driven more than 4 million peasants off the land to live in poverty in Colombia's cities.

    It would appear that Ingrid's capture by a drug cartel was engineered by the government since it feared she was about to be elected President (just like the Pakistani Government suddenly withdrew security in a notoriously-dangerous area during Benizir Bhutto's 2007 political campaign as the favorite to head the national government resulting in her assassination, the Colombian Government did the same to Ingrid resulting in her capture and imprisonment for 6.5 years).

    It took the Colombian Government only a few days to rescue her once they decided after 6.5 years to do so -- Ingrid has dual French and Colombian citizenship (her education is French and she married another student who was French), as a result of which French President Sarkozy, upon assuming office, launched a diplomatic campaign to free her and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez used President Sarkozy's campaign as a reason for massing troops on the border with Colombia (the Colombian Government quickly freed Ingrid before Venezuela could invade!!!).

    After 6.5 years of captivity, Ingrid has no stomach for further politics or for living in Colombia, but immensely invaluable are her insights into Latin American politics, U.S. relations with Latin America, the operations of drug cartels and how the international community should act vis-à-vis hostages.
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  • Participant Comments - Even Silence Has An End by Ingrid Betancourt - Sep 14th
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  • Reference Materials - Even Silence Has An End by Ingrid Betancourt - Sep 14th
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    This section contains, among other things --

    (1) The NY Times Book Review of Even Silence Has An End,

    (2) The PBS Newshour (aka MacNeil-Lehrer) interview of Ingrid Betancourt after the publication of her book.

    (3) Two book reviews of Until Death Do Us Part: My Struggle to Reclaim Colombia by Ingrid and published only a few weeks before her capture in 2002 by the FARC. Ingrid had been urged to write the book to explain herself and her mission by Dominique de Villepin, her university professor and mentor who, by 2002, was French Foreign Minister and would later become Prime Minister.
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    Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:13 am
  • Discussion Outline - Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour - August 10th
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  • Original Proposal – Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour – August 10th
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    Just in time for the United Nations General Assembly vote in September to recognize the Statehood of Palestine, our focus is Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour (available from your local library or for $5.20 from Amazon.com + shipping).

    Elias Chacour is the Archbishop of Akko, Haifa, Nazareth and All Galilee of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church which is part of the worldwide Roman Catholic Church (although the Melkite Greek Catholic Church's origins lie in the Middle East, its members are spread throughout the world and number 1.6 million).

    Chacour was born November 29, 1939 in the village of Kafr Bir'im in Upper Galilee in the British Mandate of Palestine to a Palestinian Christian family, members of the Melkite Catholic Church. At the age of eight he was evicted along with his whole village of Biram by Yishuv forces and became a deportee and a refugee but remained in the region. Because he remained in his homeland, he was granted Israeli citizenship when the state was created in 1948.

    Completing his schooling in Nazareth, he studied theology at St. Sulpice Seminary in Paris, returning home in 1965. He was ordained a priest by Archbishop George Selim Hakim of Akko, Haifa, Nazareth and all Galilee, who became Patriarch Maximos V two years later after the death of Patriarch Maximos IV Sayegh who was called "The Lion of the Council" (Vatican II). Chacour later studied the Torah and Talmud at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem as well as Aramaic and Syriac, becoming the first Arab to gain a higher degree there.

    Noted for his efforts to promote reconciliation between Arabs and Israelis, he is the author of two books about the experience of Palestinian people living in present-day Israel. Blood Brothers covers his childhood growing up in the town of Biram, his development into a young man, and his early years as a priest in Ibillin. This book has been translated into more than twenty languages. His second book, We Belong to the Land, recounts his work in the development of Mar Elias Educational Institutions, from humble beginnings to major schools for educating Palestinian young people and for helping to bring about reconciliation in a land of strife. This book has been translated into 11 languages.

    An advocate of non-violence, Chacour travels often between the Middle East and other countries around the world. In addition, many visitors, fact-finding missions, and pilgrims have come to Ibillin. In recognition of his humanitarian efforts he has received honors including the World Methodist Peace Award, the Chevalier de la Legion d'Honneur, and the Niwano Peace Prize (Japan) as well as honorary doctorates from five universities including Duke and Emory.

    The Forward for Blood Brothers was written by James Baker III, Chief of Staff for President Reagan and Secretary of State for the first President Bush.
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  • Participant Comments - Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour - August 10th
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    Questions 2-21 of the 24 questions contained in the Short Quiz posted in this section, comprise a Quick Review since they are a condensation of the Short Quizzes for the last time we studied the Israel-Arab imbroglio two years ago for our 10/14/2009 meeting when our suggested books were “A Safe Haven: Harry S. Truman and the Founding of Israel” by Allis Radosh and Ronald Radosh (HarperCollins © 2009) and “Israel Is Real” by Rich Cohen (Farrar, Straus & Giroux © 2009). For the massive materials assembled for that meeting (12 Participant Comments and 13 Reference Materials) including the vastly-more-detailed quizzes, please see the sections of this bulletin board below for the 10/14/2009 meeting.
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  • Reference Materials - Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour - August 10th
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    The first three postings in this section were among the 13 Reference Materials posted on this bulletin board for the 10/14/2009 meeting --

    (A) the text of the 8/31/1947 Report of the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) comprising 8 full pages in the 9/9/1947 New York Times and, inter alia, detailing precisely who owned each plot of land in Palestine, Jew or Arab.

    (B) the text of United Nations Resolution 181 of 11/29/1947 which provided for the partition of the Palestine Mandate into a “Jewish State” and an “Arab State” -- each of which was a checker board because it reflected the UNSCOP survey of which plots were owned by Jews and which plots were owned by Arabs.

    (C) the text of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica = The Coming of the Cold War, 1945–57 » The Cold War in the Middle East and Asia » The Creation of Israel (the last sentence of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica article is the authority for Q&A-14 for the 10/14/2009 meeting and Q&A-7 of the current Short Quiz that 567,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War for Independence which is roughly comparable to the number of Arabs that were displaced in that conflict from what became Israel).
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  • Participant Comments - America's Climate Problem, The Way Forward - July 13th
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    Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:27 pm
  • Discussion Outline - America's Climate Problem, The Way Forward - July 13th
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    Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:44 am
  • Original Proposal - America's Climate Problem, The Way Forward - July 13th
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    Our focus on July 13th will be "America's Climate Problem, The Way Forward" by Robert Repetto (available from Amazon.com for $22.76 + shipping).

    It was enthusiastically proposed after having been read by Ted Gurney, one of our retired U/U Biology Professors.

    Robert Repetto is a Prof. at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies and the President of Green-Think. He has also served as a Pew Fellow for Marine Conservation at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute and as a member of the Economics Advisory Committee of the EPA's Science Advisory Board.

    However, his background is economics = MS from the London School of Economics and PhD in Economics from Harvard. Before concentrating on environmental matters, he worked for the World Bank in Indonesia, for the Ford Foundation in India, and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
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    Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:09 pm
  • Reference Materials - America's Climate Problem, The Way Forward - July 13th
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    Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:18 am
  • Post-Meeting Discussion - Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power - June 15th
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  • DO-IT-YOURSELF SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION-E-MAIL-CAMPAIGN = Insuring The Survival Of The Democratic Party Following A Nuclear Attack On The U.S. By Terrorists - ONLY-5-MINUTES-REQUIRED-TO-PARTICIPATE
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    Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:29 am
  • Discussion Outline - Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power - June 15th
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  • Original Proposal - Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power - June 15th
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    "Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power" by Robert Kaplan is available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $16.17 + shipping.

    Robert Kaplan is a correspondent for Atlantic Monthly. His articles have also appeared in The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New Republic and Foreign Affairs. In 2009, U.S. Defense Secretary Gates appointed Kaplan to his Defense Policy Board. This is his 13th book (obviously he is not superstitious).
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    Thu May 12, 2011 11:03 am
  • Participant Comments - Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power - June 15th
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    Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:29 am
  • Reference Materials - Monsoon: The Indian Ocean and the Future of American Power - June 15th
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    Thu May 12, 2011 11:28 am
  • SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION-E-MAIL-CAMPAIGNS = Taxing-Corporate-Profits-From-Exporting-American-Jobs + Benefitting-American-Taxpayers-For-The-Scientific-Discoveries-Of-Basic-Research-They-Have-Financed - ONLY-5-MINUTES-REQUIRED-TO-PARTICIPATE
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    Both of these campaigns were discussed at our May 11th meeting. The Introduction posted in this Section also discusses a third e-mail campaign that was considered at our May 11th meeting.
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    Sat May 28, 2011 11:21 am
  • Discussion Outline - Debtor Nation: The History Of America In Red Ink - May 11th
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  • Original Proposal - Debtor Nation: The History Of America In Red Ink - for May 11th
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  • Participant Comments - Debtor Nation: The History Of America In Red Ink - for May 11th
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  • Reference Materials - Debtor Nation: The History of America in Red Ink - for May 11th
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    Our focus for May 11 is "Debtor Nation" by Louis Hyman, available from your local library, or from Amazon.com for $29.35 + shipping.

    Louis Hyman is a 2007 PhD in American History from Harvard who became an Assistant Professor of History at Cornell's School of Industrial and Labor Relations. His book, released 1/23/2011, is an update and embellishment of his doctoral dissertation which was entitled "Debtor Nation: How Consumer Credit Built Postwar America."

    It was recommended by June Taylor (aka Utah Owl) because she had attended the Sundance Film Festival this past winter where she saw "The Flaw" which is a documentary directed by noted British filmmaker David Sington (e.g., "In The Shadow Of The Moon") and produced by Christopher Hird (e.g., "The End of the Line"). It was purchased during the Festival by New Video for commercial distribution later this year under its Docudrama Films brand.

    "The Flaw" explores the reasons for the 2008-20?? crash of the American economy with interviews of two dozen noted economists, as well as Wall Street insiders and victims of the crash. The film's title is inspired by former U.S. Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan's acknowledgment in testimony before a Congressional investigating committee that there had been "a flaw" in his model of how the economy worked.

    June reported that the Sundance screening of "The Flaw" was followed by a Q&A session featuring David Sington and Louis Hyman during the course of which Sington credited Hyman's book with explaining the "why" of the crash -- that Sington had expected the Wall Street experts to provide the "why" but all they could provide was the "how"!!! Sington gave Hyman major credit for Sington's understanding of the crisis, and the story line of the film.

    About his doctoral dissertation, Louis Hyman has written --

    "My dissertation is about how what we call personal debt, that is debt incurred by individuals and not by businesses, went from being owed to other people to being owed to institutions, and what this has meant at the largest level about American capitalism. In the dissertation, Debtor Nation: How Consumer Credit Built Postwar America, I wanted to know how personal debt, which was at the end of the nineteenth century illicit, illegal, and always personal, became by the end of the twentieth century legal, institutional, and shockingly condoned. How did it move from the smoky backrooms of loan sharks to the brightly lit boardrooms of multinationals? How did it move from the margin of capitalism to its center? How did consumer credit become a site of investment and profit, and by the choice of these investments, what was left out? What other investments did consumer credit lending crowd out? How did this growth of consumer credit reframe the largest business narratives of the twentieth century-the second industrial revolution at the beginning of the century and so-called "deindustrialization" at its end?"

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    Ordinarily, we post at a minimum book reviews from the NY Times, Washington Post and/or Wall Street Journal in this "Reference Materials" forum.

    Debtor Nation does not appear to have been reviewed by any of those publications.

    Nevertheless, this “Reference Materials” forum is still provided for any other materials that any of our members would like to post.
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  • DO-IT-YOURSELF SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN – Apr.13th
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    Petitioning President Obama to reprocess spent nuclear fuel rods rather than leave them what are essentially home swimming pools at the 65 nuclear-power electricity-generation plants around the United States, many of which are located in earthquake zones and many more of which are near aviation corridors.
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  • Original Proposal - President Obama’s Nuclear Stand Post-Japan - April 13th
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    Suggested reading materials will be all of the news articles that our members consider relevant and post on the bulletin board and "Terrestrial Energy: How Nuclear Power Will Lead the Green Revolution and End America's Energy Odyssey" (2008) – available from Amazon.com for $17.23 + shipping) by William Tucker.
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  • Discussion Outline - President Obama’s Nuclear Stand Post-Japan - April 13th
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    Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:23 pm
  • Participant Comments - President Obama’s Nuclear Stand Post-Japan - April 13th
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  • Reference Materials - President Obama’s Nuclear Stand Post-Japan - April 13th
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  • Original Proposal - Religious Freedom And National Security - Mar 16th
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    Our focus will be "Freedom From Religion - Rights and National Security" (Oxford University Press 2009) by Amos Guiora, University of Utah Law Professor.

    ACLU President (1991-2008) and current NYU Law Professor Nadine Strossen has said: "This book will provoke much debate in the legal community and far beyond. While I disagree with Amos Guiora's conclusions, I applaud his candid and compelling discussion of a challenging question that should certainly be forthrightly debated: whether legal protections for religious speech and conduct should be reduced in order to counter the threat posed by religiously motivated terrorists. Even for those of us who urge that the answer should be 'No,' Guiora's impassioned work must be reckoned with."

    Please press reply to ReadingLiberally@johnkarls.com if you would like to borrow the book for a week because it is expensive ($61.20 + shipping from Amazon.com).

    It is a quick read (only 125 pages) and we have six copies (two from the SL County Library, two from the U/U Law Library and two purchased by John Karls) so for everyone willing to read 18 pages/day for a week, we should be able to accommodate 24 members who don't want the expense of buying their own copies.
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  • Discussion Outline - Religious Freedom And National Security - Mar 16th
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  • Participant Comments - Religious Freedom And National Security - Mar 16th
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  • Reference Materials - Religious Freedom And National Security - Mar 16th
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    Normally we post under “Reference Materials,” among other things, any book reviews from the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, or Washington Post. “Freedom From Religion” does not appear to have been reviewed in any of these three publications – though we have posted for “Original Proposal” (before one even clicks on it for the postings in that category) the very-intriguing quotation of the former ACLU President (1991-2008) and current NYU Law Professor regarding “Freedom From Religion.”

    HOWEVER, ON MARCH 2, 2011, THERE OCCURRED THE FIRST ITEM FOR POSTING UNDER “REFERENCE MATERIALS” –

    By way of background, Q&A No 8 posted as part of the monthly Short Quiz under “Participant Comments” stated –

    (1) The Roman Catholic Doctrine of "Blood Guilt" held that every Jew alive at any point in time including the present, is responsible for the death of Christ.

    (2) It is politically incorrect to notice that The Holocaust was proper under the Roman Catholic Doctrine of "Blood Guilt"!!!

    (3) However, one of Germany's most famous trial lawyers, Weddig Fricke, wrote a famous book on the subject = "The Court Martial of Jesus: A Christian Defends The Jews Against The Charge Of Deicide." Fricke wrote the book in the wake of defending a person who had killed 9 Jews in a concentration camp as a "wonderful Grandfather" whose only fault was being misled by his Roman Catholic religion. [Only the northern half of Germany is Lutheran, while the southern half has always remained Roman Catholic.]

    (4) According to Fricke, the Roman Catholic Church did not abandon its Doctrine of "Blood Guilt" until 1961 - 16 years after the end of World War II.

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    The first posting in this “Reference Materials” section is from a 3/2/2011 Transcript of MacNeil-Lehrer (aka The PBS News Hour With Jim Lehrer) in which the last item in the News Wrap mentions that Pope Benedict XVI’s new book “Jesus of Nazareth: Part II, Holy Week: From the Entrance into Jerusalem to the Resurrection” will be released on March 11, 2011 – AND MAKES THE CASE AGAINST BLOOD GUILT!!!

    According to The PBS News Hour (which apparently received an advance copy), the Pope states that the Doctrine of Blood Guild was renounced by the Catholic Church in 1965 – apparently Weddig Fricke’s 1961 renunciation date must have been an earlier unofficial renunciation.

    The PBS News Hour does not indicate whether the Pope acknowledges that the Roman Catholic Church’s Doctrine of Blood Guilt caused (or at least contributed to) the World War II Holocaust in which 6 million Jews were killed.

    However, it is interesting to note that virtually all of the Roman Catholic countries [e.g., France, Poland, Austria and Germany (though only the southern half of Germany was and is Roman Catholic, Hitler was born and raised in Austria which is 100% Roman Catholic)] eagerly volunteered their Jews to Hitler’s death camps, and only in the Protestant countries of Northern Europe (e.g., Denmark and Holland) was their substantial resistance to doing so.
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  • DO-IT-YOURSELF SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION E-MAIL CAMPAIGN – Feb 9th
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    European-Style Gasoline Tax (i.e. significantly higher) To “Kill 4 Birds With One Stone” = (1) adequate financing for social security and universal health care, (2) reducing carbon emissions, (3) reducing the international balance-of-payments deficit, and (4) increasing national security by reducing the reliance of the U.S. and its allies on foreign oil.
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    Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:25 pm
  • Discussion Outline - Reports By Two Deficit-Reduction Commissions - Feb 9
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  • Original Proposal - Reports By Two Deficit-Reduction Commissions - Feb 9
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    Click here for a short background summary of the two Deficit-Reduction Commissions.

    We will focus on the two issues that will dominate both the 2011-2012 Congress and the 2012 Presidential Campaign –- deficit reduction and the failure to finance 2010 Health-Care Reform (the Congressional Budget Office rated it “deficit neutral” on the assumptions (1) that half of the admitted cost could be taken from Medicare which is already facing bankruptcy and therefore won’t happen, (2) that half of the admitted cost could be dumped on the states in the form of an increased Medicaid mandate when the states are already bankrupt, and (3) that most of the non-admitted cost in the form of higher premiums for health insurance now required to be purchased by healthy young people is constitutional which is under challenge in litigation by 22 state Attorneys General).

    This all against the backdrop of the Tea Party movement and the bankruptcies of Greece, Ireland, Portugal, etc.

    Please help us formulate a third way (vs. the obvious relish with which the two established parties want to demagogue the tax rate for the top personal-income-tax bracket which will probably lead to gridlock).

    The third way would be to kill four birds with one stone by financing social security and universal health care with a European-style (that is, dramatically higher) gasoline tax. The four birds = adequate financing for social security and universal health care, reducing carbon emissions, reducing the international balance-of-payments deficit, and increasing national security by reducing the reliance of the U.S. and its allies on foreign oil.

    A potential fifth bird, as discussed briefly at our 1/12/2010 meeting, is the preservation of (vs. mere financing for) Universal Health Care. Attended by 4 attorneys and 4 non-attorneys, the meeting considered Tom Chancellor’s Discussion Outline and then considered how the US Supreme Court is likely to decide three cases that are likely to reach it in the near future = (1) the gay-rights litigation currently pending before the Ninth Circuit, (2) the 43 detainees at Guantanamo Bay whom the Obama Administration will not grant trials (civilian or military) and will be held as enemy combatants until the end of the War on Terror (please see the materials for our 12/15/2010 meeting), and (3) the litigation brought by 22 state Attorneys General challenging the constitutionality of 2010 Health-Care Reform (specifically arguing the requirement to purchase health insurance is not Constitutional under the Commerce Clause because, if the failure to act comprises interstate commerce, then there is nothing that is not interstate commerce and presumably America’s Founders thought that there must be something that was not interstate commerce if they specified it as a requirement for federal legislation.)

    At our 1/12/2010 meeting, the consensus was that with a majority of “strict constructionists” on the Supreme Court (as well as a sixth Roman Catholic member vis-à-vis the gay-rights litigation), the Supreme Court will rule AGAINST gay rights, enemy-combatant rights, AND THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF HEALTH-CARE REFORM!!!

    So our looming Six-Degrees-Of-Separation E-mail Campaign proposing a European-style (i.e., large) gas tax to finance social security and universal health care may be the only way to save them!!!
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  • Participant Comments - Reports By Two Deficit-Reduction Commissions - Feb 9
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  • Reference Materials - Reports By Two Deficit-Reduction Commissions - Feb 9
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    Click here for, among other things, the texts of (1) The 11/17/2010 Rivlin-Domenici Deficit-Reduction Plan, (2) The 11/10/2010 Blue Print of the Co-Chairs of President Obama's Deficit-Reduction Commission, and (3) The 12/1/2010 Official Report of President Obama's Deficit-Reduction Commission which fell 3 votes short of the 14 votes required for adoption by President Obama's original Executive Order establishing the Commission.
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  • Original Proposal - Making Our Democracy Work by US Supreme Ct Justice Stephen Breyer - Jan 12th
    "Making Our Democracy Work: A Judge's View" by Stephen Beyer (Knopf - 9/14/2010 - 270 pages) is available from your local library or Amazon.com for $15.72 + shipping.
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  • Discussion Outline - Making Our Democracy Work by US Supreme Ct Justice Stephen Breyer - Jan 12th
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    Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer's new book (Making Our Democracy Work: A Judge's View) which was selected by last month's meeting attendees -- had been suggested by Denise Chancellor, who handles environmental matters for the Utah Attorney General's Office, and her husband Tom Chancellor who, though retired, headed for many years the Parisian Office of the worldwide American law firm of Gibson Dunn & Crutcher.

    As with previous books recommended by the Chancellors, Tom has graciously prepared a Discussion Outline and has graciously agreed to lead the discussion January 12th.
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  • Post-Meeting Participant Comments - Making Our Democracy Work by US Supreme Ct Justice Stephen Breyer - Jan 12th
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  • Participant Comments - Making Our Democracy Work by US Supreme Ct Justice Stephen Breyer - Jan 12th
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  • Reference Materials - Making Our Democracy Work by US Supreme Ct Justice Stephen Breyer - Jan 12th
    NY Times and Washington Post Book Reviews of "Making Our Democracy Work" available here.
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  • Discussion Outline - The US Gov's "Kill List" To Assassinate US Citizens in Yemen - Dec 15th
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    Click here for the Non-Traditional Discussion Outline = A Proposal For A Counter-Weight To The Tea Party Movement = The Eye-On-The-Ball Movement which was approved at our 12/15/2010 meeting.

    [There is also a Traditional Discussion Outline which was discussed from 7:30 pm > 8:30 pm, with the discussion of The Eye-On-The-Ball Movement and its approval taking place from 8:30 pm > 8:45 pm.]
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  • Original Proposal - The US Gov's "Kill List" To Assassinate US Citizens in Yemen - Dec 15th
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    We will focus on two lawsuits filed last August challenging the U.S. Government's right to assassinate U.S. citizens far from any battlefield, so long as the U.S. Executive Branch deems them to be terrorists who are a threat to the U.S.

    The suits were brought by the ACLU and the Center for Constitutional Rights in the name of Dr. Nasser Al-Aulaqi on behalf of his son, Anwar Al-Aulaqi. The father has spent his entire career as a Yemeni Government Minister or as President of two different Yemeni Universities. His son is a U.S. citizen because he was born in the U.S. in 1966 when the father was here during his student days on a Fulbright scholarship. The U.S. government believes the son is a member of Al Qaeda in Yemen. The father disputes that.

    The key legal issues from reading quite a few of the materials (including court papers) are whether the entire world is a battleground against terrorism or, alternatively, whether the target is an imminent threat to the U.S. -- in either of which cases our Commander In Chief has the right to impose capital punishment by drone upon U.S. citizens without a trial.

    An interesting question in the event that the courts hold that the entire world is a battleground against terrorism = what is the difference between sending drones over Yemen and sending drones over, say, Britain, France or Germany???

    And would we want other countries to begin flying their drones over the U.S. in order to implement assassinations here, including assassinations of U.S. citizens deemed by the other countries to be a threat to them??? After all, our drones have assassinated in the Tribal Areas of Pakistan at least 3 German citizens and more than a dozen citizens of other Western European allies.

    Are these questions really governed by "might makes right" tempered only by discretion in the case of friends and allies??? In other words, since Russia for example is not normally considered a friend or ally, would we consider flying drones into their air space in order to conduct assassinations within their borders since our drones, if provided stealth technology, might be difficult to bring down (and how much does a drone cost anyway???)???

    The practical problems, as we have discussed in the past, are (1) Osama bin Laden issued long ago a Fatwa to nuke 10 million Americans (the number of Arabs he calculated had been killed by the U.S. or its allies), (2) the Founding Dean of Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government wrote a book on how to deal with Osama's Fatwa by controlling nuclear material, (3) it has often been pointed out that this approach is wishful thinking because, for example, the old Soviet Union's missing 178 suitcase-size nuclear weapons contained a considerable amount of recycle-able nuclear material and have long since been universally agreed by experts to be in the hands of terrorists, and (4) this issue has been the subject of intense concern for every recent Chair of the Sen Fgn Rel or Sen Armed Services Committees with, indeed, Sen Fgn Rel Chair Joe Biden writing an Op Ed piece for the Wall St. Journal during the 2008 Presidential campaign arguing that all nuclear material has "DNA" indicating where it was produced and the U.S. should announce to the world that if it is ever subject to a nuclear attack from terrorists, the U.S. will annihilate with nuclear weapons the country of origin of the nuclear material used against the U.S. (causing some wags to point out that if the U.S. itself is the country of origin, the Biden Doctrine would obligate us to commit nuclear suicide!!!).

    A companion problem, as we have also discussed in the past, is that if there is a nuclear attack by terrorists on the United States and President Obama is not seen to have done everything in his power to protect America, that will probably be the end of the Democratic Party.
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    Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:22 pm
  • Participant Comments - The US Gov's "Kill List" To Assassinate US Citizens in Yemen - Dec 15th
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    Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:49 am
  • Reference Materials - The US Gov's "Kill List" To Assassinate US Citizens in Yemen - Dec 15th
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    Click here for the Center For Constitutional Rights Press Releases concerning Al-Aulaqi vs. Obama and CCR/ACLU vs. OFAC -- and for a list of legal documents filed in those cases that are available as Adobe.pdf files from the CCR web site.
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    Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:17 pm
  • Original Proposal - Obama's Wars by Bob Woodward - Nov 10th
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    Obama’s Wars by Bob Woodward is available at your local public library or from Amazon.com for $15.00 + shipping.

    Bob Woodward is the Pulitzer Prize winning Columnist and Associate Editor of the Washington Post who, as a young reporter, teamed with Carl Bernstein, another young Washington Post reporter, to break the Nixon Watergate story and then to pursue it with the help of Deep Throat until Nixon was forced to leave office.

    Woodward’s latest book was released September 27th and rocketed straight to Number One on the NY Times Bestseller List. Its title, Obama’s Wars, refers to (1) his decision at the beginning of his Administration to surge American troop strength in Afghanistan by 21,000 and then, after an extended period of re-evaluation, to surge American troop strength in Afghanistan by another 33,000, bringing it from 47,000 at the beginning of his Administration to a total of 101,000, and (2) his decisions to increase the number of drone attacks inside Pakistan by a factor of more than 10 and to pressure the Pakistani Army to provide the “boots on the ground” to support his new war in Pakistan.

    Bob Woodward’s new book is obviously timed to influence President Obama’s Review of American Policy in Afghanistan which is scheduled to commence in December and which was announced at the same time as his second American troop surge in Afghanistan.

    Accordingly, we hope to see and hear all of you on Nov 10th!!!
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  • Unofficial Six-Degrees-Of-Separation E-mail Campaign - Obama's Wars - Nov. 10th
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    Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:09 am
  • Participant Comments - Obama's Wars by Bob Woodward - Nov 10th
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    Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:37 am
  • Reference Materials - Obama's Wars by Bob Woodward - Nov. 10th
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    For additional materials, please scroll down to the materials for our 4/8/2009 meeting 18.5 months ago, when we focused on Newsweek’s Cover Story of 2/9/2009 titled “Obama’s Vietnam” in response to the President’s first surge in Afghanistan.

    We concluded (1) that we can’t just fight a war every place Al Qaeda acquires another sanctuary (already including Somalia and Yemen as of 18.5 months ago), (2) that fighting such wars is counter-productive since such wars are one of the primary reasons for the existence of Al Qaeda, (3) that fighting such a war in Afghanistan is probably doomed to fail since Afghanistan has defeated every foreign invader beginning with Alexander the Great and continuing through the Soviet occupation in the 1980’s with 110,000 troops on the ground, and (4) that infiltrating Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations will be much more effective than fighting such wars if only America can re-grow its human-intelligence capability that was destroyed by President Clinton’s Executive Order barring the recruitment of spies and double agents who had committed violent illegal acts – which provoked the resignation of his first CIA Director (R. James Woolsey, Jr.) in protest that Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations do not trust anyone who has not committed violent illegal acts at their direction.

    Accordingly, we launched one of our Six-Degrees-Of-Separation e-mail campaigns urging every American to send the following e-mail to President Obama –-

    President Barack Obama

    Dear Mr. President:

    Re: Human Intelligence and Afghanistan

    R. James Woolsey Jr.’s 26 December 1994 letter resigning as CIA Director stated that he believed that the new Executive Order banning the use as agents of anyone who had committed a violent illegal act would make it impossible to gather sufficient intelligence about terrorist organizations since they typically do not trust a new member until s/he has committed at least one violent illegal act at the direction of the terrorist organization.

    The President who signed that Executive Order and provoked that resignation left office in January 2001 and, presumably, that Executive Order and the policy it represented have been reversed.

    Accordingly, we believe that the American people are owed an explanation why our human intelligence capabilities, together with other programs that have been put in place since 9-11-2001, are not sufficient to protect America and its allies from potential attacks from terrorist organizations based in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And whether fighting an air war against the areas of Pakistan that are not controlled by its central government (thereby risking the extension of Fundamentalist-Islamic rule installed earlier this year in the Swat Valley to all of Pakistan) and trying to subjugate Afghanistan as a base to fight that air war when Afghanistan has never been conquered successfully for any length of time throughout recorded history, add to or detract from our overall intelligence capabilities to detect and prevent terrorist attacks on America and its allies.

    Thank you for your consideration.
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    Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:28 am
  • Discussion Outline -- Murder City – What Does Juarez say about our future? -- Oct 13th
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    Please press here for the Discussion Outline.

    Although our focus will be Murder City: Ciudad Juarez and the Global Economy's New Killing Fields by Charles Bowden, our policy has always been that everyone is welcome to attend and participate, even if s/he hasn't had time to read the suggested materials. This is especially true this time (please read on!!!) --

    Utah Owl (aka June Taylor), who recommended Murder City, has written the Discussion Outline.

    Her 2.5-page discussion outline is really a CALL TO ACTION on three policy questions = (1) whether to halt the war on drugs as having been a disaster, (2) whether to re-negotiate the North-American Free-Trade Agreement (NAFTA) as having been a disaster, and (3) whether to change U.S. immigration policy to ameliorate the effects on the Mexican population of Items 1 and 2.

    There is a good chance that our discussion will result in one of our SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION e-mail campaigns. And although some of us may be skeptics, there is no question that the Democratic Party would not be in the sad shape it is in today if President Obama had decided to accept one of our dozen SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION e-mail campaigns since he took office = Eliminating Unemployment With A National-Security Work Force (12/12/2009).

    That recommendation last year would have REDUCED UNEMPLOYMENT TO ZERO. The simple Roosevelt-style concept was to extend unemployment benefits so that there would be no time limits at all –- but recipients would work for those benefits by manufacturing solar panels. Recipients would also be granted unlimited time off for job interviews to rejoin the private economy.

    Ask yourself whether you think President Obama, Majority Leader Reid and Speaker Pelosi would admit that the current election outlook would be much brighter IF THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAD BEEN REDUCED TO ZERO!!!

    And then join us this coming Wednesday evening to discuss June’s just-as-vital issues facing our nation.

    [If you would like to inspect our 12/12/2009 recommendation for Eliminating Unemployment With A National-Security Work Force or any of our other dozen or so SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION e-mail campaigns, please scroll below.]
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  • Original Proposal - MurderCity - What does Juarez say about our future? - Oct 13th
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    Our focus will be Murder City: Ciudad Juarez and the Global Economy's New Killing Fields by Charles Bowden ((c) Nations Books 3/1/2010), available in hardcover only from your local library or from Amazon.com for $18.15 + shipping.

    UtahOwl (aka June Taylor), who recommended Murder City, reports that the Booklist book review said: "Just across the Rio Grande from El Paso sits Juárez, Mexico, a city so overtaken with the violence of drug trafficking that its leading citizens-police, politicians, even the drug lords-find it safer to live in El Paso. Bowden... details the forces that have led to Mexico's place in the multinational drug business. Hundreds of millions of dollars flow into Juárez each week, and the violence and corruption that follow yield 200 to 300 murders each year. Bowden laments the silence on both sides of the border that permits the slaughter that goes mostly unnoted and unreported." UtahOwl reports further that one of the most striking points Bowden makes is that Ciudad Juárez's culture of violence will not only worsen, but will inevitably spread north into the United States.

    [Reading Liberally geographical note = El Paso/Ciudad Juárez are a single metropolitan area split by the Rio Grande at the point where, after travelling south to split New Mexico in half, it turns southeast to become the border between Mexico and Texas. Situated at the end of the West-Texas knife blade between New Mexico and Mexico, El Paso is closer to the Pacific Ocean than the Gulf of Mexico.]
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    Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:00 pm
  • Participant Comments - MurderCity: What does Juarez say about our future? - Oct 13th
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    Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:55 pm
  • Reference Materials - MurderCity: What does Juarez say about our future? - Oct 13th
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    Murder City does not appear to have been reviewed by either the NY Times or the Washington Post.

    However, the first two items in this section are quasi-reviews - (1) a feature story in The High Country News on the 3/1/2010 publication date for Murder City, and (2) a 4/14/2010 interview of Charles Bowden re Murder City by Amy Goodman for http://www.democracynow.org.

    The third item is a 9/20/2010 transcript of a MacNeil-Lehrer (aka The PBS Newshour With Jim Lehrer) segment on Ciudad Juárez's largest newspaper announcing it would no longer report on the drug wars following the assassination of one of its photographers and attempted assassination of one of its interns (one of its reporters had previously been assassinated).
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    Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:06 pm
  • Original Proposal - The Big Sort: Why The Clustering Of Like-Minded America Is Tearing Us Apart - Sep. 15th
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    Rosh Hashanah begins at sundown on the second Wednesday of September. Accordingly, our next meeting will be on Wednesday, September 15. The dislocation should be minimal because each quarter there is always one 5-week gap between meetings and September 15th (vs. September 8th) will simply mean that the 5-week gap this quarter will occur before our September meeting rather than after it. We apologize for any inconvenience.
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    Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:51 am
  • Discussion Outline - - The Big Sort: Why The Clustering Of Like-Minded America Is Tearing Us Apart - Sep. 15th
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    This discussion outline was prepared by Tom Chancellor who suggested the book for this month and who will lead the discussion on September 15th.

    Tom is an experienced attorney. His wife, Denise, who is also a regular participant at our meetings, is the Utah Assistant Attorney General in charge of environmental matters.
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    Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:53 pm
  • Participant Comments - The Big Sort: Why The Clustering Of Like-Minded America Is Tearing Us Apart - Sep. 15th
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    Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:42 pm
  • Reference Materials - The Big Sort: Why The Clustering Of Like-Minded America Is Tearing Us Apart - Sep. 15th
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    THE BIG SORT: WHY THE CLUSTERING OF LIKE-MINDED AMERICA IS TEARING US APART by Bill Bishop and Robert Cushing (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $10.85 + shipping)

    Bill Clinton has been discussing and recommending "The Big Sort" in speeches across the nation -- "Some of us are going to have to cross the street, folks."

    It is the untold story of why America is so culturally and politically divided. America may be more diverse than ever coast to coast, but the places where we live are becoming increasingly crowded with people who live, think, and vote like we do. This social transformation didn't happen by accident. We've built a country where we can all choose the neighborhood and church and news show most compatible with our lifestyle and beliefs. And we are living with the consequences of this way-of-life segregation. Our country has become so polarized, so ideologically inbred, that people don't know and can't understand those who live just a few miles away. The reason for this situation, and the dire implications for our country, are the subject of this ground-breaking work.

    In 2004, journalist Bill Bishop made national news in a series of articles when he first described "the big sort." Armed with original and startling demographic data, he showed how Americans have been sorting themselves over the past three decades into homogeneous communities -- not at the regional level, or the red-state/blue-state level, but at the micro level of city and neighborhood.

    In The Big Sort (Houghton Mifflin 5/7/2008) Bishop and Robert Cushing, a retired University of Texas sociology professor, deepen the analysis in a brilliantly reported book that makes its case from the ground up, starting with stories about how we live today, and then drawing on history, economics, and our changing political landscape to create one of the most compelling big-picture accounts of America in recent memory.
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    Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:18 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Greg Mortenson's Stones Into Schools: Promoting Peace With Books, Not Bombs, In Afghanistan and Pakistan - August 11th
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    Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:47 am
  • Original Proposal - Greg Mortenson's Stones Into Schools: Promoting Peace With Books, Not Bombs, In Afghanistan and Pakistan - August 11th
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    Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:34 am
  • Participant Comments - Greg Mortenson's Stones Into Schools: Promoting Peace With Books, Not Bombs, In Afghanistan and Pakistan - August 11th
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    Click here for, inter alia, Pat’s remarks that (1) when last we considered Afghanistan in April 2009 seventeen months ago, we issued one of our “six-degrees-of-separation CALLS TO ACTION” for everyone to send (and request all of their friends and acquaintances in an unending chain to send) an e-mail to President Obama recommending beefing up and relying on human intelligence to thwart Osama bin Laden’s fatwa to nuke 10 million Americans, and (2) documentation that this position has been recommended during the last month by Dr. Richard Haass.

    Dr. Haass has, since July 2003, been President of the Council on Foreign Relations which, inter alia, publishes Foreign Affairs Magazine. Dr. Haass is the author or editor of eleven books on American foreign policy, including War of Necessity, War of Choice: A Memoir of Two Iraq Wars (Simon and Schuster, May 2009). From January 2001 to June 2003, Dr. Richard Haass was director of policy planning for the Department of State, where he was a principal adviser to Secretary of State Colin Powell. Confirmed by the U.S. Senate to hold the rank of ambassador, Dr. Haass also served as U.S. coordinator for policy toward the future of Afghanistan and U.S. envoy to the Northern Ireland peace process. From 1989 to 1993, he was special assistant to President George H. W. Bush and senior director for Near East and South Asian affairs on the staff of the National Security Council. In 1991, Dr. Haass was awarded the Presidential Citizens Medal for his contributions to the development and articulation of U.S. policy during operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. Previously, he served in the Departments of State (1981-85) and Defense (1979-80). Dr. Haass also was vice president and director of foreign policy studies at the Brookings Institution, a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a lecturer in public policy at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government. A Rhodes Scholar, Dr. Haass holds an M.A. and Ph.D. from Oxford University.
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    Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:26 am
  • Reference Materials - Greg Mortenson's Stones Into Schools: Promoting Peace With Books, Not Bombs, In Afghanistan and Pakistan - August 11th
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    Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:11 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - The Broken Branch: How Congress Is Failing America And How To Get It Back - July 14th
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    Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:26 am
  • Original Proposal - The Broken Branch: How Congress Is Failing America And How To Get It Back - July 14th
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    Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:18 am
  • Participant Comments - "The Broken Branch: How Congress Is Failing America And How To Get It Back" - July 14th
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    Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:23 am
  • Reference Materials - The Broken Branch: How Congress Is Failing America and How To Get It Back - July 14th
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    Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:00 pm
  • Original Proposal - Arizona's New Immigration Law - June 9th
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    Proposed by solutions » Thu May 06, 2010 12:25 pm (78 views before being transplanted here)

    I propose we discuss Arizona's new immigration law. The reading materials would be:

    (1) the text of the Arizona law itself,
    (2) the materials posted on this bulletin board for our discussion of immigration on 10 January 2007, and
    (3) whatever current (or non-current) materials any of our members would like to post.
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Arizona's New Immigration Law - June 9th
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  • Reference Materials - Arizona's New Immigration Law - June 9th
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    Click here for, among other things, the text of Arizona's new immigration law.
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    Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:49 pm
  • Participant Comments - Arizona's New Immigration Law - June 9th
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    Last post by BillLee View the latest post
    Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:37 am
  • Meeting Cancellation - After Iran Gets The Bomb (Foreign Affairs Magazine Lead Article) - May 12th
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    The meeting is cancelled as of 9 May 2010. Please click here for particulars.
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    Sun May 09, 2010 3:45 pm
  • Original Proposal - After Iran Gets The Bomb (Foreign Affairs Magazine Lead Article) - May 12th
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    Click here to view the original proposal comprising --

    (1) The Foreign Affairs article (11.5 pages),
    (2) A NY Times news article (2 pages) putting the Foreign Affairs article in context, and
    (3) An essay by (3 pages) providing a sharper focus for the NY Times article.
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    Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:35 pm
  • Participant Comments - After Iran Gets The Bomb (Foreign Affairs Magazine Lead Article) - May 12th
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    Mon May 03, 2010 9:09 pm
  • Reference Materials - After Iran Gets The Bomb (Foreign Affairs Magazine Lead Article) - May 12th
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    The first three reference materials = The Foreign Affairs article (11.5 Microsoft Word pages), a NY Times article (2 pages) providing context for the Foreign Affairs article, and an essay (3 pages) providing sharper focus =

    Even is one presumes Arabs are more gullible than Charles de Gaulle or the Israelis, both of whom refused to place any trust whatsoever in the American nuclear umbrella (as a result of which Israel for the last 37 years has not been the answer to the trivia question – What WAS Israel?) – (1) can mutually-assured nuclear destruction (“MAD”) work with Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, or (2) is he more like Fidel Castro who, Soviet archives de-classified in the Glasnost era disclosed, was ready to fire the Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba at the U.S. upon their discovery in October 1962 if Nikita Khrushchev hadn’t ordered the missiles removed from the custody of a “mad man” (Khrushchev’s term for Castro after receiving Castro’s offer to destroy himself and the Cuban people)).

    This may be the most important issue facing the world today – since it is unlikely that more than a small portion of the human race would be able to survive without Middle Eastern oil supplies that have become radioactive. After all, losing most of the world’s oil production impacts not only transportation, but also the production of fertilizer and heating oil.
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    Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:55 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - "The Shock Doctrine: Rise of Disaster Capitalism" - April 14
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    Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:10 am
  • Original Proposal - The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism - April 14
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    The focus will be "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" - a former NY Times bestseller by Naomi Klein, available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $10.88 + shipping.
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    Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:55 pm
  • Participant Comments - "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" - April 14
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    Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:10 am
  • Reference Materials - The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism - April 14
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    Click here for the NY Times Book Review of "The Shock Doctrine" -- the reviewer = Joseph E. Stiglitz, Nobel Laureate in Economics 2001; Columbia U. Professor; previously (among other things) Chair of the President’s Council of Economic Advisers (1995-97); Chief Economist of the World Bank (1997-2000); his latest book is “Making Globalization Word”
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    Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:29 pm
  • “SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION” CALL TO ACTION = The Supreme Court’s Recent Corporate-Campaign-Contribution Decision - (ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE)
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    If you agree with our legally-sound legislative response to the Supreme Court's 1/21/2010 decision to invalidate the restrictions of McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law on independent campaign expenditures of corporations and unions, please click here to participate in our six-degrees-of-separation campaign to request every American to contact both President Obama and Senator McCain to propose and support our suggestion.
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    Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:23 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - US Supreme Court 1/21/2010 Decision on Campaign Contributions by Corporations - March 10
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    Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:55 pm
  • Original Proposal - U.S. Supreme Court 1/21/2010 Decision on Campaign Contributions by Corporations - March 10
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    Click here for -
    (1) Pat's original proposal 3 days before the State of the Union Speech;
    (2) NY Times news account of the Supreme Court Decision; and
    (3) Reuters news account of President Obama's attack on the decision during the State of the Union speech and Justice Samuel Alito's televised reaction mouthing "not true" to the President's claims.
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    Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:23 am
  • Participant Comments - U.S. Supreme Court 1/21/2010 Decision on Campaign Contributions by Corporations - March 10
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    Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:15 pm
  • Reference Materials - U.S. Supreme Court 1/21/2010 Decision on Campaign Contributions by Corporations - March 10
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    Click here to view, for example -
    (1) the text of the Supreme Court decisions.
    (2) a Feb. 10 OpEd Article by Ralph Nader Re Corporate "Free Speech."
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    Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:46 pm
  • Reference Mats + Participant Comments - When China Rules the World - Feb 10th -- including Suggested Answers to the Short Quiz and the NY Times Book Review on "When China Rules The World"
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    Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:19 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - When China Rules The World - Feb 10th
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    Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:07 pm
  • Original Proposal - Martin Jacques' "When China Rules The World" - Feb. 10th
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    Martin Jacques co-edited and co-authored “The Forward March of Labour Halted?, The Politics of Thatcherism” and “New Times.” Jacques co-founded the U.K. think tank Demos, has been a columnist for The Times of London, and was an editor of Marxism Today and a deputy editor of The Independent. He currently writes a regular column for The Guardian. He is a visiting senior fellow at the London School of Economics – Ideas (a Centre for the Study of International Affairs, Diplomacy and Grand Strategy) and a visiting research fellow at the London School of Economics - Asia Research Centre. He has recently been a visiting professor at Renmin University (Beijing, China), at The International Centre for Chinese Studies - Aichi University (Nagoya, Japan), and at Ritsumeikan University (Kyoto, Japan) and a senior visiting research fellow at The Asia Research Institute (National University of Singapore).
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    Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:03 pm
  • “SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION” CALL TO ACTION = The ONLY Way To Transform The Prevailing SINGLE-DIGIT Inner-City High School Graduation Rates to 65%-70% And Beyond - (ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE)
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    Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:09 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Oprah Winfrey's "Precious" - Jan. 13th
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    Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:52 am
  • Participant Comments and Reference Materials - Continuing Our Oprah Tradition With “Precious” – Jan 13th
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    Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:59 am
  • Original Proposal - Continuing Our Oprah Tradition With "Precious" – Jan 13th
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    Three years ago, which was two years before the 2008 election, we read "The Audacity of Hope" and "Dreams From My Father" because a new U.S. Senator from Illinois who took office only 22 months earlier had just been recommended for President of the U.S. by Oprah Winfrey.

    This coming Wed Jan 13th, we will focus on the story of "Precious" =

    (A) the movie currently showing in first-run theaters for which Oprah Winfrey is the moving force (listed as the first of 4 Executive Producers) and starring Mariah Carey as the social worker of Clareece "Precious" Jones; and

    (B) the book version which was originally named "Push" but has been re-printed in paperback as "Precious" - available in your local library or for $8.47 + shipping from Amazon.com.

    For further information, click here for NPR's "Everything Considered" item of 11/6/2009.
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    Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:17 pm
  • “SIX-DEGREES-OF-SEPARATION” CALL TO ACTION = Eliminating Unemployment With A “National Security Work Force” (ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE)
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    Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:59 am
  • Original Proposal - Dorothy Kearns Goodwin's Pulitzer-Prize Winning "No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II" - Dec. 9
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    We will focus on Dorothy Kearns Gooodwin’s Pulitzer Prize winning “No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II” (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $13.64 + shipping) with special emphasis on FDR’s “Economic Bill of Rights” from his 1944 “State of the Union” Speech, given 10 months before his re-election for a fourth term and a mere 15 months before he died in office –

    1. The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

    2. The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

    3. The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

    4. The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

    5. The right of every family to a decent home;

    6. The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

    7. The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

    8. The right to a good education.
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    Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:21 am
  • Participant Comments and Reference Materials - Dorothy Kearns Goodwin's Pulitzer-Prize Winning "No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II" - Dec. 9
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    Last post by BillV View the latest post
    Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:19 am
  • "SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION" CALL TO ACTION - General Motors & the EPA Perpetrating Fraud Re the Chevrolet Volt (ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE)
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    Last post by solutions View the latest post
    Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:02 am
  • Original Proposal - General Motors + the EPA Perpetrating Fraud Re the Chevrolet Volt - Nov 18
    Originally proposed by Pat on 17 August 2009
    361 views before being transplanted here on 24 October 2009

    There is no assigned book this month. However, there is a wealth of materials posted on this bulletin board from previous discussions of the environmental disaster that is a coal-fired or natural-gas fired electrical-generation plant =

    (1) For 6 September 2007 (23 months ago) – “Electricity - The Biggest Polluter” posted under Participant Comments on “Assault on Reason”

    (2) For 11 October 2007 (22 months ago) – everything posted for that date as we focused on “Big Coal: The Dirty Secret Behind America’s Energy Future” by Jeff Goodell © 2006 (available from your local library or in paperback from Amazon.com for $9.50 new/$1.29 used + shipping).

    (3) For 9 July 2008 (13 months ago) – Q&A No. 4 posted under Participant Comments on “Everything About Oil”

    (4) For 12 November 2008 (9 months ago) – The Entire First Quiz and Suggested Answers as we were focusing on Al Gore’s Challenge to America – focusing on the disappointing championing by Barack Obama of the coal industry IN OPPOSITION TO AL GORE!!!
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  • Participant Comments - General Motors and the EPA Perpetrating Fraud Re the Chevrolet Volt - Nov 18
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  • Reference Materials – General Motors and the EPA Perpetrating Fraud Re the Chevrolet Volt – Nov 18
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    Electric motors are 4 TIMES THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER as gasoline engines of equal power, because all new electrical-generation plants for many decades have been (and for the foreseeable future will be) fueled by coal (or in a few cases by natural gas, which is also a hydrocarbon producing the same amount of greenhouse gases) -- AND 75% OF THE ENERGY CONTENT OF THE COAL OR NATURAL GAS IS EXPENDED IN GENERATING THE ELECTRICITY!!!

    The Chevrolet Volt, which General Motors estimates will get 230 miles per gallon of gasoline in city driving, IS A FRAUD FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL VIEWPOINT!!!

    The Volt is a “plug in” electric vehicle with a range of 40 miles. So for the first 40 miles of each trip, the Volt’s mileage on the basis of gasoline consumption is infinite.

    However, when the Volt has traveled 40 miles and its batteries are exhausted, it has a gasoline engine that, INSTEAD OF POWERING THE CAR DIRECTLY, kicks in to power a generator which re-charges the batteries to keep the car running!!!

    So, for the portion of any trip over 40 miles, the Volt’s mileage as measured by gasoline consumption is going to be 25% of the mileage of a conventional gasoline-powered automobile (assuming that the Volt loses the same 75% in electrical generation as the country’s electric utility industry).

    So if you assume virtually all of your driving comprises trips exceeding 40 miles each, your mileage in terms of gasoline is 25% of a conventional gasoline-powered car. And if you assume all of your driving comprises trips of less than 40 miles between re-charging, your mileage in terms of gasoline is infinite.

    Obviously, General Motors could have picked any number it wanted!!!

    And it arbitrarily chose 230 miles per gallon of gasoline!!!

    HOWEVER, THIS IS MISLEADING AND, INDEED, FRAUDULENT BECAUSE IT IS DESIGNED TO FOOL THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT THE VOLT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY DESIRABLE -- RATHER THAN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER THAT IT IS!!!

    The two oldest items (in terms of time/date posted) are stories in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, both dated 11 August 2009, that were included by Pat in the original proposal of this topic on 17 August 2009 to demonstrate how the country’s media uncritically bought the fraud perpetrated by General Motors’ announcement of 230 miles per gallon for the Volt.

    The next 2 articles (in terms of time/date posted) result from Googling “Chevrolet Volt” on 3 November 2009. More than half of the top 50 “hits” were General Motors web sites and virtually all of the rest were regurgitations of General Motors propaganda. Virtually the only 2 exceptions =

    The U.S. News & World Report article of 11 August 2009 which, unlike the gullible NY Times and the gullible Wall Street Journal, actually explained the fraud that General Motors was perpetrating.

    The year-old Car and Driver article of October 2008 which, after discussing at length such issues as styling and the tremendous extra costs of the batteries, etc., finally reported uncritically the claims of General Motors regarding the cost of the plug-in electricity on a per-mile basis vs. gasoline costs.

    First, General Motors claims regarding the cost of the electricity are suspect, since they almost certainly contain quite a bit of hydroelectric power which costs virtually nothing -- but no new dams have been built in the U.S. for many decades.

    Second, even the cost of electricity from a coal-fired electrical plant is not a true measure of the environmental disaster that a coal-fired electrical plant is, because the price of coal is always a mere fraction of the cost of crude oil if they are compared in terms of energy content.

    Third, General Motors ignores the 75% environmental disaster from its gasoline engine kicking in after 40 miles between re-charging.

    SO FOR BOTH THE FIRST 40 MILES BETWEEN RE-CHARGING AND THE ADDITIONAL MILES WHEN THE GASOLINE ENGINE KICKS IN TO GENERATE MORE ELECTRICITY, THE VOLT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER!!!
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  • CALL TO ACTION - "American Policy Toward Palestinians = The Key to Middle-East Peace" - ONLY 5 MINUTES NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE
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  • Original Proposal - American Policy Toward Israel - Oct 14th
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    American Policy Toward Israel including (1) former Vice President Cheney telling Mike Wallace Aug 30 that he had strongly advocated attacking Iran's nuclear facilities while Vice President, (2) the Wall Street Journal Lead Editorial Aug 31 saying Israel is about to attack Iran's nuclear facilities after very-publicly "war gaming" attack scenarios WITH EGYPTIAN COOPERATION, (3) the announced intention of the Gulf State Six (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Oman) TO EACH GO NUCLEAR if Iran acquires nuclear weapons, and (4) Iran's reaction to the military threat from Israel and Egypt by requesting the United Nations to condemn at a September meeting any attack on anybody's nuclear facilities under any circumstances.

    Our suggested reading is "A Safe Haven: Harry S. Truman and the Founding of Israel" by Allis Radosh and Ronald Radosh - available from your local library or from Amazon.com ($18.47 new or $15.11 used - plus shipping, or $9.99 electronically). And for extra credit, "Israel is Real" (library - Amazon for $17.82/$13.75 + shipping) which, as seems to be suggested by the reviewer, takes the provocative view that Jews should not be fixated on having a homeland despite the fact that Jewish refugees fleeing Hitler were denied admission by the rest of the world and sent back to Germany. The NY Times Reviews of both books are posted here.
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  • Participant Comments - American Policy Toward Israel - Oct 14th
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  • Reference Materials - American Policy Toward Israel - Oct 14th
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    Please see especially “U.N. Information on Palestinian Refugees” and “General Arab Population + Income Stats”

    The Suggested Answers to the Short Quiz in the Preceding Section on “Participant Comments” traced the history of Israel-Palestine for the last 2,000 years – AND ENDED WITH THE OBSERVATION THAT MERE “COST EFFECTIVENESS” WOULD DICTATE THAT THE UNITED STATES OFFER TO MAKE EACH PALESTINIAN REFUGEE (WOMAN, MAN OR CHILD) A MILLIONAIRE ON CONDITION THAT S/HE USE THE MONEY TO LEAVE THE REFUGEE CAMPS AND GET A REAL LIFE!!! BECAUSE DECIDING (EVEN UNCONSCIOUSLY) TO LET THIS SITUATION FESTER FOR ANOTHER 60 YEARS WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY END SOONER IN A NUCLEAR BATTLE OF ARMAGEDDON PRODUCING A WORLDWIDE “TWILIGHT OF THE HUMANS”!!!

    The 9/28/2009 posting on “U.N. Information on Palestinian Refugees” takes a look at the United Nation’s own web site for the U.N. Relief and Agency Works which, since 1950, has registered the Palestinian refugees and run refugee camps for them. In 1950, there were only 750,000 Palestinian refugees. Today, they have multiplied to 4.6 million – with 1.3 million of that total living in the U.N. refugee camps in near-abject poverty and the remainder faring little better. The U.N. camps are located in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, the West Bank and Gaza.

    The 10/4/2009 posting on “General Arab Population + Income Stats” estimates that to raise the standard-of-living of the 4.6 million Palestinian refugees to the level prevailing in the 12 countries in the Arab League whose economies are not primarily based on oil, would require annual underwriting of $6 billion/year.

    HOWEVER, WHAT WAS INTENDED BY THE OFF-HAND THOUGHT OF MAKING PALESTINIAN REFUGEES MILLIONAIRES WAS TO DO MORE THAN SIMPLY GIVE THE PALESTINIANS A “COUNTRY” COMPRISING THE WEST BANK AND GAZA – WITH ALL THE PALESTINIAN REFUGEES CONTINUING TO LIVE IN POVERTY IN THE REFUGEE CAMPS!!!

    Obviously what is needed is more than a “land for peace” deal – SOMEONE NEEDS TO DESIGN AN ECONOMIC PROGRAM THAT WILL TAKE THE REFUGEES OUT OF THEIR CAMPS AND MAKE THEM PROSPEROUS!!!

    The “first step” was the estimate of how much it would cost/year to simply raise the standard of living of the Palestinian refugees to the level prevailing in the other 12 non-oil Arab countries at $6 billion/year.

    Now think about what could be accomplished if you took that amount of money for, say, 10 years and designed a real economic-development program for all 4.6 million Palestinian refugees – bringing all of them together in the New Palestine (or how many ever of them can be enticed to leave the refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria). AFTER ALL, $6 BILLION/YEAR FOR 10 YEARS IS ONLY 33% OF GIVING EGYPT $3 BILLION/YEAR OF FOREIGN ECONOMIC AID AND ISRAEL $3 BILLION/YEAR OF FOREIGN ECONOMIC AID BEGINNING IN 1979 WHEN THEY SIGNED THEIR PEACE AGREEMENT – AND WE ARE STILL GIVING BOTH CLOSE TO THAT 30 YEARS LATER!!!

    As a “ball park” estimate of what would be required, let’s assume that half of the 4.6 million Palestinian refugees are minors and that what we should be doing is providing each of them with a good education that will equip them to compete successfully in the modern world, and let’s assume that the other half are adults who, with some basic training, could handle the jobs that would go with economic development – construction, irrigation, agriculture, manufacturing, etc. If a careful assessment were made about what the comparative strengths would be for the new country of Palestine (assuming appropriate education for minors and training for adults), it should be possible to get rid of the refugee camps and bring prosperity to the Palestinians.

    Unfortunately, it does not appear that anyone is giving any thought to doing this!!! Instead, everyone appears to be taking the attitude toward the Palestinians – “You can have your own country if you stop bothering everyone else” – BUT THAT WON’T SOLVE THE REAL PROBLEM!!!
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Health Care/Insurance Reform - Sep. 9th
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  • Bill Lee's Original Proposal - Health-Care (or Health-Insurance) Reform - Sep 9th
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    Our next meeting is THIS WEDNESday evening September 9th - Salt Lake Public Library (210 East 400 South) - Conf. Rm. C (special elevator just inside EAST entrance).

    Join us for socializing at 6:00 pm DURING WHICH JANUS DANIELS WILL ACCESS PRES. OBAMA'S SPEECH STREAMING LIVE OVER THE INTERNET or, if you prefer, come from 7:00 pm > 8:45 pm for our previously-planned discussion of health care/insurance reform.

    We provide coffee/decaf + chocolate chunk cookies - or bring a sandwich/quiche/dessert from the Library Branch of the Salt Lake Roasting Company just inside the EAST entrance - or bring your own snack/beverage.

    THERE IS NO BOOK THIS TIME TO READ (our group voted for Bill Lee's recommendation that "we consider once more all aspects of health-care reform as it heads for final passage this fall") though there is quite a bit of information posted on our bulletin board = http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org not only for this month but also for the last two times we addressed the subject 24 months ago and 5 months ago.
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  • Participant Comments - Health-Care (Health-Insurance) Reform - Sep 9th
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  • Reference Materials - Health-Care (Health-Insurance) Reform - Sep 9th
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    There is no suggested book to read for this month.

    However for extra credit, you can skim the last four items posted in this section (they were posted as "replies" to Bill's proposal by two of our participants before Bill’s proposal was adopted) -

    (1) An Op-Ed Article by the CEO of Safeway Inc. describing how they have lowered their health-care costs by 38% by charging employees for the extra actuarial cost of smoking and obesity (which is reminiscent of the "U.K. Fat Tax" Proposal by Oxford University posted on our web site for our discussion 24 months ago);

    (2) An Op-Ed Article by a Wharton Professor of Health-Care Management and Insurance/Risk Management about incenting good behavior in general;

    (3) A Washington Post news report on the July 16 Congressional Budget Office Report on how none of the health-care bills in Congress control costs - touching off the firestorm of opposition that is still raging; and

    (4) Utah Owl's recommended web sites for info about the issue.

    Also of pivotal interest in understanding the debate about so-called “death panels” is the Wikipedia article on “Quality-Adjusted Life Years” (or “QALY”) which explains how insurance policies (both employer-provided and individual policies) determine what procedures will be covered. And the article by Harvard Econ Prof Marty Feldstein (former Chair of the President’s Council of Economic Advisers) mentions, among other interesting points, that Britain’s National Health Service will only cover procedures that cost less than £ 30,000 (or $49,685) per QALY. It should be noted that so-called “gold-plated” employer-provided health-insurance plans range as high as $500,000 per QALY.

    And for anyone interested in additional background material to supplement current news reports, there is quite a bit of interesting material posted on this bulletin board for the last two times we discussed health care - 24 months ago and 5 months ago.

    THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE OUR DISCUSSION WILL RESULT IN ONE OF OUR "SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION" APPEALS FOR EVERYONE TO E-MAIL PRESIDENT OBAMA WITH RESPECT TO A PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITY, AND FOR EVERYONE TO REQUEST THEIR FRIENDS AND ACQUAINTANCES TO DO THE SAME IN AN UNENDING CHAIN.
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  • Original Proposal - Three Cups of Tea - August 12th
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    Our focus will be Utah Owl’s recommendation of “Three Cups of Tea” by Greg Mortenson – about one American mountain climber’s struggle to build schools in Pakistan’s mountainous tribal region, home of Al Qaeda.

    Available from your local library or from Amazon.com in Paperback for $9.00 new/$3.97 used + shipping.
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    Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:07 am
  • Participant Comments - "Three Cups of Tea" - Aug. 12th
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    Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:14 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - How to Change The World - July 8th
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    Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:48 am
  • Original Proposal - How To Change The World - July 8th
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    Our focus will be “How To Change The World: Social Entrepreneurs and the Power of New Ideas” By David Bornstein (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $10.85 + shipping).

    Nelson Mandela –
    “Wonderfully hopeful and enlightening…The stories of these social entrepreneurs will inspire and encourage many people who seek to build a better world.”

    NY Times –
    “The book is must reading for anyone who cares about building a more equitable, and therefore more stable, world.”
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    Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:57 am
  • Participant Comments - How To Change The World - July 8th
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    Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:15 pm
  • Reference Materials - How To Change The World - July 8th
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    Although the NY Times has never published formal book reviews of either of David Bornstein’s two most famous books (“The Price of a Dream: The Story of the Grameen Bank” which probably provided the publicity that garnered the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize for the Grameen Bank and its founder, Muhammad Yunus, and our current focus “How To Change The World: Social Entrepreneurs and the Power of New Ideas” which was a NY Times Hardcover Bestseller), this section contains –

    Two articles that focus primarily on Bornstein and “How to Change the World” –

    (1) A Social Solution, Without Going the Nonprofit Route – 3/4/2009
    (2) Of Globalization and the Greater Good – 2/22/2004

    and two Letters to the Editor of the NY Times by David Bornstein and the articles that provoked him –

    (1) A Nobel Prize for Wal-Mart? – 10/20/2006
    (2) Inch By Inch, A Lifeline For The Poor – 5/2/2004
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Come Home America - June 10
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  • Participant Comments - Come Home America - June 10
    THIS SECTION CONTAINS A TRANSCRIPT OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S JUNE 4 CAIRO SPEECH FOLLOWING THE SUGGESTED ANSWERS TO THE SHORT QUIZ (since it relates to Q&A 12).
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  • Original Proposal - Come Home America - June 10
    We will focus on Utah Owl’s recommendation of William Greider's new book, “Come Home, America: The Rise and Fall (and Redeeming Promise) of Our Country” on his ideas about why America is losing its global leadership position and how ordinary people can use profound global changes at hand to build a more equitable society. You can download audio of Diane Rehm's interview with Greider at http://wamu.org/programs/dr/09/04/08.php#25615 - second segment of this show. The book is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $16.52 new & $14.17 used + shipping.
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    Sat May 16, 2009 11:25 am
  • The Banking Imbroglio - Come Home America - June 10
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    Considerable e-mail correspondence has been received from our members on the subjects of “toxic assets,” the “mark-to-market” rules, the bank “stress tests” and now this week’s announcement that virtually all of the large banks (except Citibank, Wells Fargo and Bank of America) will be permitted to repay the U.S. government for loans made to them under TARP.

    These materials have been posted for everyone to read because “Come Home America” (as well as William Greider’s previous best-selling books) have focused to a considerable extent on economic problems. And because posting them for everyone to see should facilitate our discussion this evening.

    Apparently, the reason why so much e-mail has been directed toward me is that I majored in economics in college before attending Harvard Law School and, I am guessing, the authors of the e-mails thought I had sounded knowledgeable in past postings on our bulletin board when we had discussed economic issues. In addition, much of this issue deals with the “mark-to-market” accounting rule and I did receive the Sells Silver Medal for ranking 2d out of 28,788 candidates nationally on the Fall 1971 Uniform CPA Exam.

    (I hope readers will NOT assume that this is an attempt to brag, but merely an attempt to re-assure them that my comments can be accepted with some degree of accuracy.)
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  • Reference Materials - Come Home America - June 10
    We will focus on Utah Owl's recommendation of William Greider's new book, "Come Home, America: The Rise and Fall (and Redeeming Promise) of Our Country" (published by Rodale 3/17/2009) - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.13 new or $15.00 used + shipping.
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    Sun May 31, 2009 2:41 am
  • CALL TO ACTION - The ONLY Way To Transform SINGLE-DIGIT Inner-City High School Graduation Rates to 65%-70% - Only 5 Minutes Needed to Answer the Call to Action
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    Sat May 16, 2009 12:04 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - A Report Card for U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13
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    Sat May 09, 2009 9:28 am
  • Original Proposal - A Report Card for US Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13
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    Focusing on whether to re-direct our January 14th six-degrees-of-separation e-mail campaign on "Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools" toward Secretary Duncan (please see this bulletin board below re Jan 14th for details).

    Suggested reading = “The Obama Education Plan: An Education Week Guide” (available from your local library or from Amazon.com from $7.83 + shipping).
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    Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:33 am
  • Participant Comments - A Report Card for US Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13
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    Our focus is Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools and "The Obama Education Plan: An Education Week Guide by Education Week" (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $14.95 (used $7.83) + shipping) and actions/decisions being taken by Education Secretary Arne Duncan.

    We anticipate re-directing our six-degrees-of-separation e-mail campaign of last January from President Obama to Secretary Duncan who has an unheard-of $5 billion in the proposed budget over which he has 100% discretion and so far the Administration has been ignoring the only factor that can transform single-digit inner-city high-school graduation rates to 65%-70%!!! The budget will be approved in the next few weeks and a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to do something significant vis-à-vis educating inner-city kids effectively will be lost!!!
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    Tue May 05, 2009 11:38 am
  • Reference Materials - A Report Card for US Education Secretary Arne Duncan - May 13
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    Our focus is Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools and "The Obama Education Plan: An Education Week Guide by Education Week" (available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $14.95 (used $7.83) + shipping) and actions/decisions being taken by Education Secretary Arne Duncan.

    We anticipate re-directing our six-degrees-of-separation e-mail campaign of last January from President Obama to Secretary Duncan who has an unheard-of $5 billion in the proposed budget over which he has 100% discretion and so far the Administration has been ignoring the only factor that can transform single-digit inner-city high-school graduation rates to 65%-70%!!! The budget will be approved in the next few weeks and a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to do something significant vis-à-vis educating inner-city kids effectively will be lost!!!
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    Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:15 am
  • CALL TO ACTION – Human Intelligence vs. Surging in Afghanistan From 17,000 U.S. Troops to 70,000 and Beyond
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    Click here for how to participate in our six-degrees-of-separation "Call to Action" to send (and have all of our friends and acquaintances send in an unending chain) an e-mail to President Obama respectfully requesting an explanation of why human intelligence capabilities, together with other programs that have been put in place since 9-11-2001, are not sufficient to protect America and its allies from potential attacks from terrorist organizations based in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And whether fighting an air war against the areas of Pakistan that are not controlled by its central government (thereby risking the extension of Fundamentalist-Islamic rule installed earlier this year in the Swat Valley to all of Pakistan) and trying to subjugate Afghanistan as a base to fight that air war when Afghanistan has never been conquered successfully for any length of time throughout recorded history, adds or detracts from our overall intelligence capabilities to detect and prevent terrorist attacks on America and its allies.
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    Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:18 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Afghanistan, President Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8
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  • Original Proposal - Afghanistan, Pres. Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8
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    Focusing on --

    (1) Newsweek's Cover Story for 2/9/2009 entiled "Obama's Vietnam" (posted here and under "Reference Materials" two sections below).

    (2) "Counterinsurgency: Theory and Practice" by David Galula - considered "The Bible" by US General David Patraeus and required reading at the US Army's Command and General Staff School - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $26.95 + shipping (unfortunately, the price is currently quite high due to extraordinary current demand from the U.S. media).

    (3) The movie "Charlie Wilson's War" (2007) starring Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Philip Seymour-Hoffman and Amy Adams about one US Congressperson's covert expulsion of the Russians from Afghanistan in the 1980's - which raises the obvious question of why we think we can be more successful than the Russians in subjugating Afghanistan.

    (*) For extra credit, read "The US Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual" (2007) by David Patraeus which is surprisingly readable - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $10.20 (new) or $8.50 (used) + shipping.
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    Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:40 am
  • Participant Comments - Afghanistan, Pres. Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8
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  • Reference Materials - Afghanistan, Pres. Obama's Vietnam and Pakistan, His Cambodia - April 8
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    Press here to view, among other things --

    (1) The text of the Newsweek cover story for February 9, 2009 entitled "Obama's Vietnam"

    (2) The NY Times 2/16/2009 story = "Pakistan Grants Autonomy to Swat Valley"

    (3) Defense Secretary Gates on Pakistan "Safe Havens" for The Taliban and Al Qaeda Pivotal in Afgahnistan War

    (4) President Obama's Official New Policy Announced March 27th per WhiteHouse.com

    (5) "The Real Afghan Issue Is Pakistan – The President Has His Priorities Reversed" By Graham Allison and John Deutsch -- Graham Allison is the Founding Dean of Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government and the author of a book ("Nuclear Terrorism") on Osama bin Laden's fatwa to nuke 10 million Americans; he also served as Assistant Defense Secretary for Policy and Plans under President Clinton and was the "moving force" on the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on Preventing WMD Proliferation and Terrorism -- John Deutsch is a Professor at MIT and served as CIA Director in President Clinton's second term.

    (6) News report that President Obama is mulling increasing his already-announced "surge" of 21,000 additional U.S. troops in Afghanistan by another 10,000 U.S. troops, for a total of 70,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
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    Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:42 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - How Should Pres. Obama Reform Health Care - March 11
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  • Original Proposal - How Should Pres. Obama Reform Health Care - March 11
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    Click here to also view the article of the same title in The New Yorker of January 26th.

    In addition, please read "Sick - The Untold Story of America's Health Care and the People Who Pay the Price" (Harper Collins 2007) by Jonathan Cohn, a Senior Editor at The New Republic (available from your local library or Amazon.com for $7.99 + shipping).

    Please also see the voluminous material posted on this bulletin board for our August 2007 meeting 18 months ago.
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    Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:40 pm
  • Participant Comments - How Should Pres. Obama Reform Health Care - March 11
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    Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:50 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction: Foreign Policy - Feb. 11
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  • Feb. 11 Topic = Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction - Foreign Policy
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    The topic is "Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction - Foreign Policy" focusing on (1) last month's Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism (Chaired by Bob Graham, 18-year Democratic US Senator from Florida who resigned to run for President in 2004), and (2) "America and the World: Conversations on the Future of American Foreign Policy" between Zbigniew Brzezinski (National Security Adviser to President Jimmy Carter and Democratic Party foreign-policy spokesperson on all the "talking head" shows during the recent 2-year Presidential campaign) and Brent Scowcroft (National Security Adviser to President Ford and the first President Bush) - moderated by David Ignatius of the Washington Post.

    BOTH BRZEZINSKI AND SCOWCROFT WROTE OP ED ARTICLES OPPOSING AN INVASION OF IRAQ 7 MONTHS BEFORE IT TOOK PLACE – SCOWCROFT IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL OF 8/15/2002 AND BRZEZINSKI IN AN UNSPECIFIED (BY IGNATIUS) AUGUST 2002 ISSUE OF THE WASHINGTON POST.

    Last month's Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission received wide publicity for one of its conclusions - that the U.S. will likely face a terrorist attack using nuclear or biological weapons by 2013. It would be a shame for the Democratic Party to become extinct if such an event were to occur.

    Last month's Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission is posted on our bulletin board = http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org. Last fall's book of conversations of David Ignatius with Zbigniew Brzezinski and Brent Scowcroft is available from your local library,or from Amazon.com for $18.15 new ($15.50 used) plus shipping.
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  • Participant Comments - Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction/Foreign Policy - Feb. 11
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    Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:34 am
  • Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on the Prevention of WMD Proliferation and Terrorism - Feb. 11
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    Click here to view the Report of the 2007 Democratic Congress' Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction Proliferation and Terrorism.

    It is also available in PDF (Adobe) format at http://www.preventwmd.gov/report/.
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    Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:39 am
  • Other Background Mats - Saving the Democratic Party from Extinction/Foreign Policy - Feb. 11
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    Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:18 am
  • CALL TO ACTION - Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools
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    Please click here to see how you can participate in solving the problem of the permanent American under-class created and perpetuated by separate BUT UNEQUAL inner-city public schools.

    *****
    As of January 21, it may no longer be possible to send the original e-mail contained in this section to President Obama. He has transformed http://www.change.gov/page/s/contact into a single window announcing that the transition is over and providing a button for the user to transfer to http://www.whitehouse.gov, which has been transformed with the departure of former President Bush.

    Although the transformed http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ provides a new suggestion box, IT NOW CONTAINS A LIMITATION OF 500 CHARACTERS (INCLUDING SPACES!!!)!!! Neither his old Senatorial suggestion box nor his President-Elect transition suggestion box had contained any limitation.

    The message in our e-mail of last Saturday for sending to President Obama with respect to Separate BUT UNEQUAL Public Schools is 1,633 characters (including spaces), and our e-mail following our November meeting for sending to President Obama to encourage him to embrace Al Gore's Challenge to America to re-power our electrical grid to be based solely on solar and wind was 1,251 characters (including spaces).

    The following protest (containing 489 characters including spaces) was filed on President Obama's new web site at 11:05 pm MST on January 21:

    Dear Mr. President:

    Our Reading Liberally/Salt Lake organization would like TO PROTEST your new limitation of 500 characters for messages to you!

    We frequently encourage all of our members to contact you (and to contact all of their friends in an unending chain to contact you) with regard to issues we are studying (please see http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org for further info).

    We suggest a limit of 500 WORDS would be more reasonable.

    Thank you.

    Sincerely yours,

    John K.

    *****
    No auto-reply e-mail receipt (similar to the auto-reply e-mail receipts for the http://www.change.gov, an example of which is contained in the first item in this section of the bulletin board) has been received for the protest message even though it is only 489 characters long including spaces.

    So we ran two tests.

    (1) The original 1,561-character message was sent on January 22nd to http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ by “cutting and pasting” the message into the “suggestion box” – it took all 1,561 characters but with no e-mail receipt, it is not certain the entire message (or indeed any part of it) went through.

    (2) The original 1,561-character message was typed de novo (vs. “cutting and pasting”) into the http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ “suggestion box” – which kept a “running count” of the characters (including spaces) AND DISABLED THE KEYBOARD AFTER 500 CHARACTERS!!!

    *****
    It is presumed that as soon as the White House staff discovers that “cutting and pasting” finesses their 500-character limitation (assuming the “cut and paste” test even went through on Jan 22nd), they will change their computer program to reject “cut and paste” messages exceeding the limit.

    Accordingly, “solutions” has watered down our original e-mail message to President Obama (it is contained in the second item, time-wise, in this section) to comply with the 500 character limitation.
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    Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:40 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Leaving Children Behind - Jan. 14
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  • January 14th Topic = Leaving Children Behind
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    Examining the position of the National Educational Association (the largest union of American K-12 teachers) on "No Child Left Behind" and the 2007 decision of the U.S. Supreme Court that race could NOT be considered by the school boards of Seattle WA and Louisville KY in order to achieve diversity -- in determining whether to initiate a "Six Degrees of Separation" campaign to submit to the on-line suggestion box of our President Elect the suggestion of John Karls from November 2007 that regional (multi-district) magnet schools be employed to avoid leaving children behind while still complying with the new Supreme Court restriction (please see the November 2007 materials on "The Jena Six and the Supreme Court's Reversal of School Integration" on this bulletin board).

    Suggested reading =
    (1) the NEA position per its web site vis-a-vis No Child Left Behind, AND
    (2) Jonothan Kozol, The Shame of the Nation: The Restoration of Apartheid Schooling in America (2005), PLUS
    (3) for extra credit, Jonothan Kozol’s other books on inner-city education =
    Death at an Early Age (1967)
    The Night Is Dark and I Am Far From Home: Political Indictment of US Public Schools (1975)
    Illiterate America (1985)
    Rachel and Her Children (1988)
    Savage Inequalities: Children in America’s Schools (1991)
    On Being a Teacher (1994)
    Amazing Grace: The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation (1995)
    Ordinary Resurrections: Children in the Years of Hope (2001)
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  • Background Mats + Participant Comments - Leaving Children Behind - Jan. 14
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    Please also read the following essays that were prepared 14 months ago when our topic was "School Desegregation and The Jena Six" -- the following essays are contained in the 8 November 2007 section below entitled "The Controversy That Is Bill Cosby" --

    Inner-City Kids and Public Education
    Inner-City Measured IQ’s
    Pushers Recruiting Third Graders as Runners
    Perceptions of Inner-City 5-Year Olds!!!
    Typical Inner-City Conditions and IHAD Results
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    Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:48 am
  • Text - 2007 Supreme Court Reversal of School Integration - Leaving Children Behind - Jan. 14
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    In 1896, the Supreme Court held in "Plessy v. Ferguson" that racial segregation in public elementary and secondary schools was constitutional provided that the minority schools were "separate but equal."

    In 1954, the Supreme Court held in "Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka" that racial segregation in public schools is inherently unequal and therefore unconstitutional.

    In 2007, the Supreme Court held in "Parents v. Seattle School District No. 1" that (quoting from the Court's own summary of its opinion (the summary appears in page 1 of the 8 pages of text posted in this section of the bulletin board)) -- "Further, the Court held that the districts, which did not operate legally segregated schools, denied students equal protection by classifying students by race and relying upon the classification in school assignments."

    In other words, the Supreme Court approved a "Look Ma, no hands!!!" approach to segregated schools, where the "apartheid" school segregation as Jonathan Kozol terms it, is achieved by segregated housing!!!

    In doing so, the Supreme Court didn't even have the grace to say that the schools for the segregated neighborhoods SHOULD BE EQUAL -- taking us back to the Dark Ages before Plessy v. Ferguson!!!
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    Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:33 am
  • December 10th Meeting = "It's The Economy, Stupid"
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    For those who may not remember, "It's The Economy, Stupid" was a constant reminder pasted by Bill Clinton to his shaving mirror for his entire 8 years in office.

    Suggested reading = “Bad Money: Reckless Finance, Failed Politics, and the Global Crisis of American Capitalism” by Kevin Phillips, author of 12 best-selling books on American politics, a regular contributor to the Los Angeles Times and National Public Radio, and a political analyst for PBS’ NOW with Bill Moyers.

    Published 4/15/2008 and available from your local library or Amazon.com for $17.13 new ($11.50 used) + shipping.
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    Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:19 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - "It's The Economy, Stupid" - Dec. 10th
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    Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:42 am
  • Participant Comments - "It's The Economy, Stupid" - Dec. 10th
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    Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:25 am
  • Reference Materials - "It's The Economy, Stupid" - Dec. 10th
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    Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:35 am
  • CALL TO ACTION - Al Gore's 10-Year Challenge to America
    Our call to action asks all Americans to contact President-Elect Barack Obama to request him to champion Al Gore's Challenge to America to re-power America’s electrical grid so that within 10 years the grid is carbon free in order to (1) bring our economy back to life by creating American jobs, (2) achieve energy independence for our foreign policy, (3) eliminate our balance of payments deficit (borrowing $700 billion/year from the Chinese to buy oil from other foreign countries, many of whom hate us), and (4) constitute a major step in halting global warming.

    Please see the details in this section regarding how you can participate!!!
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    Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:18 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Al Gore's Challenge to America - Nov. 12
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  • Text of Al Gore's July 17th Challenge To Re-Power America's Electricity Grid Within 10 Years - For Nov. 12
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    Our focus for WEDNESday November 12th is Al Gore's 17 July 2008 "Generational Challenge" to America to Re-Power Its Electrical Grid To Rely 100% (except for hydro which would remain in place) on Wind and Solar WITHIN 10 YEARS!!!

    In order to (1) comply with Kyoto with 100%-clean electricity, (2) achieve energy independence for our foreign policy, (3) eliminate our balance of payments deficit (borrowing $700 billion/year from China to buy oil from other foreign countries, many of whom hate us), and (4) create American jobs.

    Click on the title for this section for the text of Al Gore's speech.
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  • To Go "Beyond The Call of Duty" - Info About Three Background Books - For Nov. 12
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    Thomas Friedman's "Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America" (Hardcover 9/8/2008 - available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $15.37 new or $10.95 used + shipping). Suggested by "solutions."

    Thomas Friedman is a syndicated columnist for the NY Times and a prolific author. "Hot, Flat, and Crowded" is largely a non-technical version of Option C below.

    *****
    T. Boone Pickens' "The First Billion Is The Hardest: Reflections on a Life of Comebacks and America's Energy Future" (Hardcover 9/2/2008 - available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 new or $13.00 used + shipping). Suggested by "solutions."

    T. Boone Pickens is a famous oil man who proposes long-term solar and wind in line with Options A and C - but notes that America has virtually unlimited reserves of natural gas and proposes tapping American natural gas immediately to eliminate political dependency on foreign producers and eliminate the $750 billion/year paid to foreign producers as a bridge until solar- and wind-power can be implemented on a large scale.

    *****
    "Carbon-Free and Nuclear-Free: A Roadmap for U.S. Energy Policy" by Arjun Makhijani (11/15/2007 - available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $12.21 new or $9.99 used + shipping). Suggested by "UtahOwl."

    Arjun Makhijani is President of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research (http://www.ieer.org). He has authored or co-authored many books, articles, and reports on energy, nuclear weapons and environmental issues. He has testified before Congress and appeared on national ABC, CBS, BBC, CNN, and NPR news programs, among others. He has written for the Washington Post, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, Technology Review, and many other publications. He has a PhD from the University of California at Berkeley where he specialized in nuclear fusion.
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    Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:07 am
  • Additional Ref Materials - Al Gore's Challenge to America - for Nov. 12
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    Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:05 am
  • Participant Comments - Al Gore's Challenge to America - for Nov. 12
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    Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:17 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Team of Rivals - Oct. 8
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    Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:03 pm
  • Participant Comments - "Team of Rivals - Oct 8
    At our September meeting, we voted to focus on Leslie Urry's recommendation of "Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln" by Dorothy Kearns Goodwin, Pulitzer-Prize winning Presidential historian and frequent guest on "Meet the Press" and "The MacNeil/Lehrer Report" (aka The Newshour with Jim Lehrer). It is available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $14.28 + shipping.
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    Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:36 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Barack Obama's Bible - Sep 10
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    Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:09 am
  • Participant Comments - "Barack Obama's Bible = Rules for Radicals" - Sep 10
    "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky (available at your local library or from Amazon.com in paperback for $10.36 + shipping).
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    Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:26 am
  • Ref Mats - "Barack Obama's Bible = Rules for Radicals" - Sep 10
    "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky (available at your local library or from Amazon.com in paperback for $10.36 + shipping).
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    Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:17 am
  • Comments of Participants - Obama From Promise to Power - Aug 13
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    Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:05 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Aug 13
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    Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:49 am
  • Reference Mats - Obama From Promise to Power - Aug 13
    Ordinarily, we provide the NY Times book review among other things. However, during the last month, the NY Times has replaced its extremely cumbersome search capability with one powered by Google, which is completely inadequate!!! No Boolean search terms, no date ranges, no listing of results by date, etc., etc. As a result, the book review for “Obama: From Promise to Power” could not be located!!!
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  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Everything About Oil - July 9th
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    Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:50 am
  • Comments of Participants - Everything About Oil - July 9th
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    Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:41 am
  • Reference Materials - Everything About Oil - July 9th
    Including NY Times Book Review of "American Theocracy: The Peril and Politics of Radical Religion, Oil, and Borrowed Money in the 21st Century" by Kevin Phillips
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    Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:07 am
  • Tim Russert Eulogies
    This is a eulogy contained in our weekly e-mail sent Saturday June 14th between 6:17 am and 7:25 am MDT and the responses from some of our e-mail recipients. Please feel free to add yours.
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    Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:48 am
  • July Meeting - Possible Topics (historical)
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    Mon May 05, 2008 1:03 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - "Infidel" - June 11
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    Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:01 am
  • “Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali – for June 11
    Ayaan Hirsi Ali came to the attention of the wider world in an extraordinary way. In 2004 a Muslim fanatic, after shooting the filmmaker Theo van Gogh dead on an Amsterdam street, pinned a letter to Mr. van Gogh’s chest with a knife. Addressed to Ms. Hirsi Ali, the letter called for holy war against the West and, more specifically, for her death. A Somali by birth and a recently elected member of the Dutch Parliament, Ms. Hirsi Ali had waged a personal crusade to improve the lot of Muslim women. Her warnings about the dangers posed to the Netherlands by unassimilated Muslims made her Public Enemy No. 1 for Muslim extremists, a feminist counterpart to Salman Rushdie. The circuitous, violence-filled path that led Ms. Hirsi Ali from Somalia to the Netherlands is the subject of “Infidel,” her brave, inspiring and beautifully written memoir. Narrated in clear, vigorous prose, it traces the author’s geographical journey from Mogadishu to Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia and Kenya, and her desperate flight to the Netherlands to escape an arranged marriage. At the same time, Ms. Hirsi Ali describes a journey “from the world of faith to the world of reason,” a long, often bitter struggle to come to terms with her religion and the clan-based traditional society that defined her world and that of millions of Muslims all over the world

    Available from your local public library or from Amazon.com IN PAPERBACK for $10.20 + shipping
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  • Comments of Participants - "Infidel" - June 11th
    “Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali is available from your local public library or from Amazon.com IN PAPERBACK for $10.20 + shipping
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    Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:57 am
  • Reference Materials - "Infidel" - June 11th
    “Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali is available from your local public library or from Amazon.com IN PAPERBACK for $10.20 + shipping
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    Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:04 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Bush's Law - May 14
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    Sat May 10, 2008 7:45 am
  • Eric Lichtblau's “Bush’s Law: The Remaking of American Justice” – May 14
    Eric Lichtblau, NY Times reporter, won the Pulitzer Prize for his articles disclosing the Bush Administration's secret surveillance program. His new book "off press" 4/1/2008 focuses on the secret-surveillance program but also addresses the famous 2003 Justice Department legal memorandum (1) which gave the legal rationalia for "aggressive interrogation" techniques, (2) which was withdrawn 9 months after its issuance, and (3) which was recently made public as the result of an ACLU "Freedom of Information Act" lawsuit.

    JOIN US AS WE COMPARE THE GENESIS OF THE NEXT WAR IN IRAN. IN THIS REGARD, PLEASE SEE QUESTIONS 1 & 2 OF "THE SHORT QUIZ" IN THE "PARTICIPANT COMMENTS" SECTION BELOW AND "BARACK AND HILLARY - STARTING THE NEXT WAR WITH IRAN BEFORE EVEN FINISHING THE LAST WAR IN IRAQ " (ALSO IN "PARTICIPANT COMMENTS")

    Suggested by "solutions" on 4/3/2008

    "Bush's War" is available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 + shipping or by e-mailing "readingliberallyemaillist@johnkarls.com" with the subject = "book loan requested."
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  • Participant Comments - "Bush's Law" - May 14
    Eric Lichtblau's "Bush's Law: The Remaking of American Justice" available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 + shipping OR by e-mailing "readingliberallyemaillist@johnkarls.com" with the subject = "book loan requested"
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    Thu May 01, 2008 11:36 am
  • Reference Materials - "Bush's Law" - May 14
    Eric Lichtblau's "Bush's Law: The Remaking of American Justice" available from your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 + shipping OR by e-mailing "readingliberallyemaillist@johnkarls.com" with the subject = "book loan requested"
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    Fri May 09, 2008 12:39 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Apr 9th
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    Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:33 am
  • Clone Rights: Involuntary Soldiers, Sex Slaves, Human "Lab Rats" Etc. - Apr 9
    How would you like to be an involuntary soldier, sex slave, human "lab rat" etc. WITH NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS JUST BECAUSE (1) the stem cells from which you were created came from skin cells rather than an embryo, or (2) your DNA is only 99% of the way from chimp DNA to human DNA (or any of the chimp-human DNA combinations the Yale U Biology Dept has created and is creating)??? Re (2), how do legal classifications based on % of human DNA differ from legal classifications in the Old South based on % of African-American blood, or legal classifications in Hitler's Third Reich based on % of Jewish blood???
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    Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:51 am
  • Participant Comments/Ref Mats - Clone Rights for Apr 9
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    Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:39 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Mar 13
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    Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:03 am
  • Benazir Bhutto's "Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" - for Mar. 13
    Benazir Bhutto was assassinated Dec. 27 while campaigning for Prime Minister of Pakistan. She had served twice as Pakistan’s Prime Minister (1988-90 and 1993-96, being deposed both times by the military). She was the first female to head the government of any Islamic Country. Her father, Ali Bhutto, also served as Prime Minister – he was executed in 1979 by the military government that deposed him. Benazir Bhutto received her B.A. in Comparative Government from Harvard, where she was Phi Beta Kappa. She then studied Politics, Philosophy and Economics (“PP&E”) at Oxford – the typical educational background of most British Prime Ministers (except Churchill who attended Sandhurst - Britain's West Point). While there, she was elected President of the Oxford Union – the first Asian woman to head Oxford’s most prestigious debating society. DISCOVER WHY BEING THE ONLY ISLAMIC NUCLEAR POWER (AND BEING THE SOURCE OF IRANIAN AND NORTH KOREAN NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY) AND BEING HOME TO AL QAIDA AND THE TALIBAN MAKE PAKISTAN'S FEBRUARY 18TH PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION AMERICA'S MOST CRUCIAL 2008 ELECTION!!!

    "Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" (Harper Collins 2008) is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.54 + shipping.
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    Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:30 am
  • Critiques of Benezir Bhutto’s “Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West” - Mar 13th
    My critiques in six major areas to “Reconciliation” are collected here. Most of them draw, despite dispensing with footnotes for the sake of brevity and simplicity, on having read 12-15 biographies and historical tomes annually for 33 years of marriage (and the 7 years since) to the co-author of the country’s best-selling H.S. world history text (McGraw-Hill with National Geographic maps/illustrations – now in its 6th edition and counting). Despite these critiques, it is impossible to express how utterly impressed I am with the incredible knowledge and understanding possessed by Benazir Bhutto, how completely devoted she was to the welfare of the Islamic world in general and her country in particular, and how incredibly brave she was in fatally confronting a military that had already assassinated her father and two brothers.
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    Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:13 am
  • Background Materials - Mar. 13
    Benazir Bhutto's "Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" (Harper Collins 2008) is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.54 + shipping.
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  • Comments of Participants - Mar. 13
    Benazir Bhutto's "Reconciliation: Islam, Democracy and the West" (Harper Collins 2008) is available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.54 + shipping.
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    Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:16 am
  • DRINKing Liberally Presentation - Fri Eve Feb 29
    The 2009-2010 “Old Congress” and Why “Change” Will Never Happen (Again)
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    Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:00 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Feb 14th
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  • "The Best Gov Money Can Buy: Bribery and Extortion" - Text of Original Proposal for Feb 14
    Or why Barack Obama doesn't have any greater chance to bring real "change" than William J. Clinton when he ran as "The Candidate of Change" in 1992 promising the same things now on offer from Barack Obama (such as health care, though now not nearly so universal as attempted by the Clintons in the 1990's).
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    Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:44 pm
  • Proposed Solution to The Cesspool that is Washington DC - for Feb 14
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    Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:05 pm
  • Background Mats - The Best Gov Money Can Buy: Bribery & Extortion - Feb 14th
    Focus for discussion = Robert Kuttner's "The Squandering of America: How the Failure of Our Politics Undermines Our Prosperity" (Alfred A. Knopf 2007) - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 ($14.89 used) + shipping
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    Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:50 am
  • Illegal “Bribe” vs. “Legal” Campaign Contribution - Feb 14th
    Alternate Title = The Crime of Telling the Truth!!!
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    Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:26 am
  • Participant Comments - The Best Gov Money Can Buy: Bribery & Extortion - Feb 14th
    Focus for discussion = Robert Kuttner's "The Squandering of America: How the Failure of Our Politics Undermines Our Prosperity" (Alfred A. Knopf 2007) - available at your local library or from Amazon.com for $17.79 ($14.89 used) + shipping
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    Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:03 pm
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Jan 10th
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    Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:58 pm
  • Illegal Immigration = Topic for Jan 10th
    Click here for BillV's provocative issues!!!
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    Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:59 am
  • Participant Comments on Immigration - Jan 10th
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    Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:05 am
  • Reference Materials - Immigration - Jan 10
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    Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:18 am
  • Leading Dem Candidates on Immigration - Jan 10
    Clinton/Obama/Edwards/Biden (top 4 in polling order as of Dec 16) positions per their official web sites. If your favorite candidate is not one of these four and you believe his position should be considered, please feel free to post it here. NB: NEITHER EDWARDS' NOR BIDEN'S WEB SITES LIST IMMIGRATION OR BORDERS AMONG THEIR ISSUES!!!
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    Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:10 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Dec 13th
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    Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:17 am
  • Leading Rep Candidates on Immigration - Jan 10
    A wise person always considers what the opposition is saying - Giuliani/Huckabee/McCain/Romney/Thompson (top 5 in polling order as of Dec 16) positions per their official web sites. NB: (1) IMMIGRATION WAS THE FIRST ISSUE ON HUCKABEE'S WEB SITE!!! (2) GIULIANI'S WEB SITE DOES NOT EVEN LIST IMMIGRATION OR BORDERS AS ONE OF HIS 12 ISSUES!!!
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    Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:55 am
  • Call to Action - Meeting Report for Dec 13th
    This posting comprises our first weekly e-mail following our December 13th meeting – our e-mail list has 108 members.
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    Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:55 am
  • Is War With Iran Inevitable??? - Topic for Dec 13
    Including Hillary Clinton's Repeated Bashing of the Bush Administration for "Being Soft on Iran" + Israel's Bombing Syria 9/6/2007 and Israel's Iranian Plans. These three postings include (1) Pat's original proposal of this topic, (2) the careful analysis on 9/18/2007 by the former Editor of the Jerusalem Post of what happened when Israel bombed Syria on 9/6/2007 (a subject about which nobody in the U.S. or abroad was saying anything, and about which very little continues to be said) and (3) the "Face the Nation" transcript for 10/28/2007 of Sen. Armed Services Chair Carl Levin (D-MI) and Minority Member Lindsey Graham (R-SC) for which Moderator Bob Schieffer said in his introduction: "The foreign-affairs focus of the major Presidential candidates, both Democrat and Republican, seems to have swung from Iraq to Iran. On the Republican side, Guiliani, Romney, et. al., seem to be competing to provide the most emphatic sound bite that they will stop at nothing to insure that Iran does not obtain nuclear weapons. While Hillary is acting as if she already has the nomination and is already waging a general-election campaign in which she appears to be just as belligerent/militant toward Iran."
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    Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:14 am
  • Hillary's Bashing Bush as "Soft on Iran" - for Dec 13
    Hillary's 1/18/2007 Princeton Speech + 4/24/2007 Speech to the National Jewish Democratic Council + Hilary as the lone Democratic Presidential Candidate to vote for the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment on 9/26/2007
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    Last post by johnkarls View the latest post
    Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:20 pm
  • Action v. Deterrance (+ Detente) - for Dec 13
    Summary of basic considerations for action v. deterrance vis-a-vis Iran's nuclear program (including the Islamic belief that Islamic martyrs by-pass The Judgment Day coupled with Osama bin Ladin's Fatwa to Nuke 10 million Americans (please see below for reference materials re the Fatwa)) + Foreign Affairs article on nuclear detente with Iran
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    Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:40 pm
  • Bombing Syria 9/6/2007 Re Iran & N Korea - for Dec 13
    Please see above “Is War With Iran Inevitable??? – Topic for Dec 13” for the 9/18/2007 analysis of Israel’s 9/6/2007 bombing of Syria and its connection to North Korea by the former Editor of the Jerusalem Post. The postings collected here comprise (1) the 11/11/2007 analysis by the NY Times of the Pakistani nuclear weapons with reference to the current Pakistani crisis, (2) the 9/25/2007 initial reaction of John Bolton to Israel’s 9/6/2007 bombing of Syria, and (3) the 10/31/2007 analysis of John Bolton THAT ISRAEL HAD BOMBED AN EXACT REPLICA OF NORTH KOREA’S NUCLEAR FACILITY BUILT IN SYRIA BY THE NORTH KOREANS TO CIRCUMVENT THE SIX-NATION TALKS REGARDING NORTH KOREAN NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT. (John Bolton was U.S. Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control (2001-2005) and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-20006))
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    Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:06 pm
  • Participant Comments Re War With Iran - for Dec 13
    The first posting is by "solutions" and comprises the book review by the Wall Street Journal (probably Israel's strongest supporter in the American media) of "Failure Is Not An Option" by John Bolton (U.S. Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control (2001-2005) and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-20006)). The fourth posting is the "Face the Nation" transcript for Nov. 25 re Condi Rice's Mideast Peace Conference involving 50 nations at Camp David and the inter-relationship between the conference and War on Iran/Iraq/Terror.
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    Last post by achamberlin View the latest post
    Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:09 pm
  • Ref Mats - Osama's Fatwa To Nuke 10 Million Americans - Dec 13
    "Action vs. Deterrence (+ Detente)" reference materials regarding the third reason for action vis-à-vis Iran (the Islamic belief that Islamic martyrs by-pass The Judgment Day coupled with Osama bin Ladin's Fatwa to nuke 10 million Americans) = (A) 9/5/2004 NY Times Book Review of “Nuclear Terrorism” by Graham Allison, the Founding Dean of Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, on Osama’s Fatwa (at that time to nuke only 4 million Americans); (B) 5/29/2005 “Meet the Press” transcript of then Sen Fgn Rel Ch Richard Lugar (R-IN), the former Sen Armed Services Com Ch Sam Nunn (D-GA) and Messrs. Kean/Hamilton (9/11 Ch & Co-Ch) on Osama’s Fatwa (by then to nuke 10 million Americans); (C) 6/4/2007 proposal of current Sen Fgn Rel Ch & Presidential Candidate Joe Biden to threaten nuclear annihilation against any country whose fissile materials are used by a terrorist in a nuclear attack on the U.S.; and (D) 6/12/2007 proposal of Stanford Prof. William Perry (Clinton’s Sec/Defense) and Harvard Prof. Ashton Carter (Clinton’s Ass’t Sec/Defense for Intl Security Policy) to enact a federal law that the U.S. military (vs. state & local “first responders”) will be responsible for coping with the aftermath of nuclear terrorism and, in passing, blast Biden’s nuclear-annihilation proposal. NB: (1) Dean Allison believes nuclear terrorism is preventable by keeping track of fissile materials while Nunn/Lugar/Kean/Hamilton believe Allison’s approach is “locking the barn after the horse is out” and examine ways to DELAY TEMPORARILY nuclear attacks on the U.S.; (2) Biden’s nuclear-annihilation threat appears to be based on Allison’s “lock the barn” approach.
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    Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:50 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Nov 8th
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    Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:06 am
  • The Controversy That Is Bill Cosby for Nov 8th

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    Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:57 am
  • Participant Comments - School Integration & The Jena Six - for Nov 8th
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    Last post by johnkarls View the latest post
    Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:34 am
  • The KKK - "All The Best People In Society Belonged" - for Nov. 8th
    This item is a synopsis of a book copyrighted by the Univ. of California Regents documenting the pervasive influence of the Ku Klux Klan IN THE UPPER MIDWEST. Aaron Stander's addition calls attention to the pervasive influence of the KKK in New England.
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    Last post by AaronStander View the latest post
    Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:43 am
  • Background Mats - School Integration & The Jena Six - for Nov 8th
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    Last post by johnkarls View the latest post
    Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:47 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Oct 11th
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    Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:40 am
  • Suggested Background Materials Re Global Warming for Oct 11th
    Focus for Discussion = “Big Coal: The Dirty Secret Behind America’s Energy Future” by Jeff Goodell © 2006 (available from your local library or in paperback from Amazon.com for $10.17 new/$8.88 used + shipping).
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    Last post by solutions View the latest post
    Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:23 pm
  • Participant Comments Re Global Warming for Oct 11th
    Focus for Discussion = “Big Coal: The Dirty Secret Behind America’s Energy Future” by Jeff Goodell © 2006 (available from your local library or in paperback from Amazon.com for $10.17 new/$8.88 used + shipping).
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    Last post by johnkarls View the latest post
    Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:08 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Sep 6th
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    Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:55 am
  • Suggested Discussion Outline - Aug 2d
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    Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:04 am
  • Comments of Participants - Universal Health Care for Aug 2nd
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    Last post by Sabotage Restorer View the latest post
    Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:11 am
  • Suggested Background Materials on Universal Health Care for Aug. 2d
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    Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:28 am

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